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In Reply to: RE: Neutral Cable Reference I [ improved ] USB Cable posted by el34eh@yahoo.com on May 26, 2017 at 13:30:07
Hi everyone,
First post (and in "cables", what am I thinking?)
I bought a Neutral Cable USB Reference I cable on a recent family holiday to Italy (met designer/owner Fabio, who hand delivered it with a day's notice - a lovely guy).
70 hours in and I have to agree with the positive reviews: there's more detail than I'm used to (it replaces a Curious Cable, which is anything but a slouch); instruments are better defined; voices are more lifelike; but it's the "feel" that's the big winner for me (drums/bass are punchier and attack more, softer sounds land with incredible finesse - a rare mix)
It's a chunky silver cable, so a long burn-in time makes sense - the company says 200 hours. I'm extremely happy with it now. Any improvement from here would be a huge bonus.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Mike
Follow Ups:
Hello Mike,
It's nice to see that someone else has taken the challenge and purchased said USB cable, as to my way of thinking........, it's like it bought everything together in my system whereas I'm very reluctant to buy another cable. But in truth will be trying one of Fabio's ICs in the months to come.
Once again I'd say those of you whom haven't heard Pure Silver as far as quality and gauge goes....., here we're talking OCC 7N and at least 23 awg makes for all the difference in the world. And while I was trying not to name the other brands I've compared mine along side......., I'd have to say that many of them came across as more detailed in nature, yet forced in a manner which merely felt wrong as it not allowing the inner-beauty of notes to flow, but as if everything was geared towards a more HiFi'sh nature that once again over the long haul lacked substance which then makes one believe the musician are actually playing in your listening space as opposed to transporting you to the recording venue......., it's more like they've visited your home to perform a very intimate recording session right before your very eyes | ears.....
Long story short and I'll let it go after this one is......., you owe it to yourself if you're a person whom values the purity and finer points of music reproduction in your home which once again feels | sounds right!, I'd say please try to arrange a home demo of any of these cables for yourself.....
Happy Memorial Day to you all, and especially those of you whom have served our Armed Forces at one point or another....., Boya!.
Ordered the Passion I USB today based on your observations...I'll circle back after it's spent some time in my system & let you know how it's working out.
Hello Shep,
That's great news, and I couldn't possibly imagining you not liking what it brings to music......, as I generally only listen to my system twice a week on a good week, as I'd rather spend more time gathering an average of 220 downloads per week, where I tend to photoshop my album covers for ones with higher resolution as I'm a detail freak when it comes to artwork.
But of late......, I've found myself listening upwards to 4-5 dates per week, on an average of 6-8 hours per day. For me this is a tell tale sign that the system on a whole has become more emotionally involving....., and in turn causes me to subconsciously react in a more positive manner.
I'll be looking forward to hearing your opinion on the Passion USB I upon its arrival, here's wishing you and yours a wonderful Memorial Day evening......., and thanks for reading between the lines and then be willing to trust my words enough to want to sample your own, as that was in fact my intention to merely make others aware of a more sound investment in said cables, as this brand is definitely something to behold......
Memorial Day was spent w/16 family members grilling hamburgers & hot dogs followed up w/home made ice cream...mmmmmmm good. Hope yours was equally full-filling.
If the Passion cable is nearly as musically convincing as your advocacy for it, I'm sure it will be a welcome addition!
Best regards and thanks for your recommendation.
Hello Shep,
Merely wondering if in fact you might've received your Passion improved USB cable?, as mine had reached me within 5 days after placing the order, yet got held up in NY for seemingly an extra 5 days which seems to be the norm between having things delayed between theirs and|or the Chicago postal offices.
I'm still waiting to hear your impression good, bad or indifferently.
Happy Fathers Day to you and our extension Brotha's here where this applies?.
Peace,
O_o scar
Good Morning,
The gang is all here for another cook-out on Father's Day!! BBQ chicken and ribs this time...seems like every time we correspond, I'm grilling!
I received the cable at the end of last week...only took 7 days to get here including a 2 day delay in NYC Customs. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to spend sufficient time listening to gather my impressions yet. I told Fabio I'd try to get back to him this coming week and I'll share here w/same when I reply to him.
Thanks for the continued interest. Hope all's well w/you and yours.
Good morning,
Enjoy your BBQ, and I do look forward to said impressions. And do have an extra piece of that chicken set aside for me, and I'm heading your way now.
Until then...
I've had several extended listening sessions this week with the USB Passion I and have finally come to terms with how the cable sounds in my system. It was not easy. Simply put, I've struggled trying to assign conventional characteristics (warm, soft, smooth, bloated, brash, etc.) to the sound of this cable before finally deciding none of them worked. This cable has less 'sound' than any i've had experience with. It seems to pass information without adding or subtracting anything of consequence to the mix. Since there's no "perfect" cable, I'm sure it editorializes to some extent but I've been unable to discern it in my system.
In short, as far as I'm concerned, you selected the right name...-"Neutral Cable". The only negative in my system is the stiffness of the cable. In the length I chose, (.8 meter) it's difficult to keep my microRendu in place but securing it to a small piece of granite took care of that. Otherwise, I'm completely satisfied with the performance of the USB Passion I...-it's a keeper.
Hello Shep,
Thanks for sharing your impression, as I was very curious about how this model would sound as well?, seeming that I'm currently torn between cabling with conductors of either pure silver or silver plated copper....., yet there's a side of me which believes if done correctly......, pure copper of this sort of purity, either as an IC or USB cable might then be capable of altering the sonics of my upstream components just enough to offer me a slightly different flavor without having to actually buy components.
Neutral indeed.....
Hey el34eh,
I want my cable to be agnostic w/respect to the components I've selected. Get the signal from one component to the next w/out altering or flavoring. That's not easy to do but the Passion I comes closer to that ideal that others I've auditioned.
I've had less than good experience w/silver plated copper in any of my systems...it's less natural sounding than either to me.
Hey Bro.....
While I can understand the flavoring issue, I've come to trust my ears | senses when it comes to tailoring the sonics according to what's required upstream......, in my case as I find that my dac offers a rounder, warmer presentation..., said selection of conductor goes a very long way in correcting the overall balance just enough to add a sense of snap, as well as attack to notes that would otherwise come across as rather blogged down.
And while I realize this isn't what is heard as being totally neutral ( pun intended ) very very few components truthfully are these days, it's as if one has to select either warmish or slightly cooler tonality in much of the gear which is being sold of late......., but in truth, I'd rather have either as opposed to something which comes across as overly bright ( analytical if you will ) any day of the week.
At some point, I guess it wouldn't hurt to own each flavor of Fabio's USB cables......, next stop Passion I USB cable and done.
Sounds as if you all are having a excellence gathering......, and in the end all one needs is their family and a system that's balanced enough to keep one home, and this is where the little ladies in our Ives need to give us more respect......, I mean one could be wasting money on drugs | liquor | chasing women in the street. But when a person finds joy in the comforts of their own home......
Well I can't speak for others, as my wife has always been supportive of this shared hobby enough to have offered me a few thousands here and there over the years towards gear, so in that sense I'm going to spend it where needed......, and in my mind home comes first.
I do believe that you're going to be very very surprised with the musicality within......., and once again it's not about any fake sense of detail or resolution......, this goes much deeper then that, " this involves ones very essence in what's taking place right before them ".
And it goes without saying......, but you're more then welcome.
O_oh
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