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In Reply to: RE: Wireworld Equinox 6 Interconnect Report posted by Crazy Dave on August 08, 2012 at 15:08:48
A serious Google search did not result in any report I can find, of any Wireworld interconnect featuring the DNA design as presenting a grainy sonic signature due to high capacitance or otherwise. Only one report even mentioned that the Equinox 6 might present a detrimental level of high capacitance, in their opinion. Besides, the most noticeable effect of substantially high capacitance tends to be a rather dulled sounding treble, not a grainy effect. In fact, to my ear, the Wireworld Equinox 6 interconnect clearly presents the smooth, grain-free sonic signature that OCC single crystal wire is most often known for. It would be silly for Wireworld to implement state of the art OCC conductors that are intended to sound grain-free for a cable that does not deliver the goods in that particular department.
just my 2 cents
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I was thinking more along the lines of it causing instability in an already poor match of components and thereby causing the driver component to distort. I did a search and the only examples I could find is when excessive would act as a low pass filter and would, as you say, make the treble sound dull because it would be rolling it off. I also would not expect a respected company like Wireworld to design a cable with that much capacitance. Another example would be a tube preamp that lacks a cascode follower stage, and because of this, has a high output impedance driving a long length of cable. But this to would also cause a high frequency roll off. There was mention of store-release properties of high capacitance cables, but I could not find anything concrete. From this, I conclude that is unlikely that capacitance could account for the differences heard in this cable by other inmates.
Dave
Dave, Mungo Jerry has not heard the Equinox 6 and has only claimed that the cable sounds grainy in another persons opinion, an opinion I simply can't find on the internet. I don't see why a false accusation should be acknowledged as valid in Cable Asylum.
Because you couldn't find it on the internet, does that mean it doesn't exist? Does that require you to utter a "false accusation"?
What if I heard that from Don Morrison. Would you believe me? Or does it have to be on the internet somewhere to merit worthiness. By the way it was on the internet. See my other post.
"By the way it was on the internet. See my other post."
You misinterpreted what you read on the internet, so it was "misleading information". However, I could have been less sharp than using the term "false accusation", so for that I apologize. See my reply to your other post.
Techradar did a review and called the upper treble not as crystalline as another cable. I interpreted that as grainy. Maybe it didn't sound grainy on its own, but by comparison, it did.
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Crystalline as an audiophile term connotes the notion of transparency, for example, the perception of abundant extended treble energy with a bell-like clarity. Grainy refers to a rather specific textural artifact that is coarse in nature, with more "fine grained graininess" often referred to using similar descriptors used in wine tasting, such as fine particles on the surface of the mouth which feel powdery, chalky, grainy, gritty, etc. depending on how large or small those particles may be perceived. In the case of the Wireworld Equinox 6 interconnect, I sought a more polite, more forgiving interconnect cable for my digital CATV box, so the treble energy of the Equinox 6 does sound more subdued, with less treble energy than my reference cable, so I would also agree with the notion that the Wireworld Equinox 6 interconnect does not sound as crystalline as my reference cable does. However, the cable does not sound grainy, in any manner, to my ear.
"Crystalline as an audiophile term connotes the notion of transparency, for example, the perception of abundant extended treble energy with a bell-like clarity."
Are you sure? Seems to me that the distinguishing thing about Bells and Crystals (whether of the quartz or glass ilk) are that they are high-Q resonators which would mess up both temporal and frequency response and thus be a defect in an audio system, not transparency...
Rick
See link:
Dusty, maybe you should provide a glossary of approved "audiophile" terms so there won't be any confusion in the future; like PRAT, house sound and all that other nonsense. You used the word "lethargic" to describe the sound of a wire with a particular cover (can't remember if it was teflon or PVC now). I had to re-read that to make sure. I still can't believe it!
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See links:
http://frege.brown.edu/heck/audio/beginners/lingo.php
http://www.stereophile.com/reference/50/
I see your point. Hearsay is not very valid evidence of anything. However, I do find the subject fascinating that equipment, including cables, can sound very different in different systems. I have heard it for myself, when I sold audio. I have also been reading proponents of high and low capacitance cables. There are good arguments for both. Actually, it is not that difficult to DIY both.
Dave
From what I've gathered, the higher than typical capacitance of the DNA Helix design is due to the nature of a tuned LC cable geometry rather than some sort of shortsightedness on the part of Wireworld. While some folks might think that just lowering capacitance and inductance will make a cable sound superior, in my experience and understanding, audio cables with the lowest numbers don't always perform like what one might think they should simply based on measurements. That said, if the circuitry of a given component doesn't like to see higher capacitance cables, such as Goertz speaker cables that can cause some amplifiers to oscillate, there's always other, more compatible cable options to choose from.
".. typical capacitance of the DNA Helix design is due to the nature of a tuned LC cable geometry rather than some sort of shortsightedness on the part of Wireworld."
I did not think is was shortsightedness, give your comments and the care they appear to put in the design. At some point in the design process, you have to make some choices on benefits. There probably is not a perfect cable for all situations.
I have a Threshold CAS-1 which is and amp that a Goetz cable would blow up! I really like the sound, which is a major reason I am interested in this subject.
Dave
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