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In Reply to: RE: I have 2 Venom3s in my system... posted by Snyder on February 21, 2012 at 16:45:52
I made one change in my configuration in that I've unplugged the Venom 3 that was feeding my power amp from the power conditioner (Belkin PF-30) and plugged it straight into the wall outlet. That, to my ears, somewhat restored the muscle in the bass. Am I imagining things, or is the sound indeed different if you feed electrical current directly from the wall outlet than if you feed it from the power conditioner?
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My power amp sounds the best plugged directly into the wall outlet.
Do you think you've totally solved your problem?
My power amp sounds the best plugged directly into the wall outlet.
Do you think you've totally solved your problem?
I think the roller coaster ride with the burning in (or whatever else was going on with my system) now seems to be over. The mids and the highs are now the best they've ever been. However, I'm still not happy with the bass, as I feel that prior to this change, my bass was much more robust, with more pronounced 'oomph' and torque. Sure, plugging the Shunyata Venom 3 directly into the wall outlet seemed to have improved the bass, but I still feel it's kind of too shy and too polite for my taste.
I'll go back and replace Shunyata with Nordost power cable on my power amp, and will report back if it made any positive change. Thanks for your advice!
It's a combination of the conditioner (they all tend to alter the sound and limit dynamics) and your line voltage no doubt (variable with time of day). That's assuming your components are in perfect working order. Also, psychology, emotional state, pharmaceuticals and alcohol (not to mention air pressure, humidity and the presence of ear wax) will effect what you are hearing:O) Funny thing is...I'm not kidding!
dave_b
No, you have heard correctly. Interesting you should ask this question at this point. I had looked up your system and saw you listed the Belkin conditioner, and I was composing my next set of questions to you about your system w/ the Venom3 power cords when your post showed up.
In my experience, "power conditioners" such as the Belkin you have will at least change power amp. dynamics - and this means usually restricting the dynamics - unless they specifically state they are "non-current limiting" (even then ...). I had a $200 Monster brand "power bar" at one point and easily noted that the dynamics of my then mid-fi system (mostly Rotel) were restricted vs. the $3.00 wall outlet. Latter, I purchased a Shunyata Hydra4 power conditioner. In short, the results were that the dynamics of my system were more pronounced (I mean much better, even for bass alone) with the Hydra4 vs. the wall outlet. Go figure; but I have stuck with the Hydra4 longer than any other system component thus far. From this, and other experiences it has lead me to think, from hearing such results that are clearly notable, that more music can be garnered simply from the AC side of components, be they amps., or source.
I would encourage you to try to audition a proven (that means neutral and non-current limiting) power conditioner such as the Shunyata Hydra series. Used, they are a steal for what they do. From another OP I note you had started to evaluate another brand; I do not have experience with that brand, however my dad worked for Furman in the past. And do not get me started on outlets .... Happy listening
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