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In Reply to: What's the smallest wire AWG that you feel confident using for speakers? posted by Quiet Earth on April 1, 2007 at 09:11:36:
I don't agree or disagree...I guess I'm sort of in the middle.I wound cable for the bass/MR part of my triamped DIY systems...
They're 97dB sensitive and I use a 2.5WPC Music Reference EM7 amp to drive the B/MR sections (and another to drive the 2 treble sections). I used all-OCC-copper conductors--one 18g., Teflon-insulated and one-each 20g. and 26g. enameled, netting to c. 15-1/2g....per pole. I wound these 2 trios (plus 2 dielectric-bias conductors) around a 4g. Teflon tube in opposite directions. If you'd like more pics, e-mail me at jeffreybehr(at)cox(dot)net.
To answer your specific question, I'd use a single 18g. per pole as minimum, but others would use smaller or larger--read that thread. :-)
BTW, for bass only, where one wants the least resistance for better driver damping, I use 4-times-14g. (nettting to 11g. per pole) home-AC, solid-conductor wire. (On the left in this pic.)
Works and sounds great AFAIK, but I've never compared its sound to that of anything else.
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And the pictures that you posted are great too. Thanks for sharing that. Although, I must admit that I am heading in the complete oposite direction of what you have. I'm trying to get the most out of a single amp (per channel) and I'm headed towards a single driver speaker too.But I certainly appreciate all of that effort it took to put your system together. How do you like your Music Reference EM7? I wouldn't have thought that it would have enough power to drive a complicated load like that. Amazing.
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I'm using active fitering and eq. from a dbx DriveRack PA, so the EM7 amp driving the B/MR is driving an 8-Ohm load of speakers with NO inductors or capacitors in the signal path, with filterpoints of 40Hz and 2.5KHz. The tweeter amp sees the same kind of load but for 16 Ohms and from 2.5KHz up. The woofers are a 4-Ohm load, again with no reactive components in the signal path.Yes it has lots of amp channels and drivers and ICs, but it sounds VERY coherent...all 'of one cloth'...and frankly it's the best-sounding speaker system I've ever heard...period.
The EM7 amps sound quite nice; try one.
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I understand what you're saying. There is no crossover after the amp and so there is no filter to overcome. You have a direct connection to each voice coil.But, you have eight reactive loads hooked up simultaneously to one amplifier output. Perhaps each load has a slightly different length of wire getting back to the amp too. I'm not so sure you can classify that as a simple load. Simpler than going through a crossover, maybe. But not simple like single driver simple.
It's all academic though because it is working so well for you. I'm just thinking out loud. That's a big 2.5 Watts in the EM7! Impressive.
Btw, all of your projects look like a lot of fun. What were we talking about ? . . . . oh yeah, wire. I get sidetracked so easily.
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