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In Reply to: RE: I don't know anyone vertical biamping but posted by pictureguy on May 28, 2017 at 12:05:47
Must be fuzzy math, 3 connections = 3 connections in my book. If you're 3 connections are somehow easier to connect than my 3 connections please enlighten me.Martin
Again you seem to feel the need to be superior, there's no contest here, six of one, half a dozen of another as it were. With your amp the Y split is internal rather than external, if this is important to you then great.
My preamp has multiple pairs of main outputs, one pair designed to simulate the sound of a high end tube pre for powering the high frequency driver's amplifier, the other a high end SS which it is for the bass driver's amplfier to facilitate horizontal biamping, does that make it better than yours?
As you said easier is always better.
Edits: 05/28/17 05/28/17Follow Ups:
I was thinking the Y connector was female RCA and you needed an additional RCA from IT to the amp.
If the Y had male outs, and was long enough (still not very) the connection number would than be 3.
Some would, at that point, begin objecting to whatever cable and connectors were used in its construction.
I'm not on that particular list.
But, for those who ARE concerned? I'd figure DIY should answer most objections.
The Parasound approach is simply Cleaner and entails no additional expense. My original plan with a pair of 'em in biamp mode was to eventually go to an active crossover. At that point? The MiniDSP would act as such and I'd be back to multiple longer cable runs, unless I were to run ONE crossover in back of each speaker and continue with a single run to each as now.
The least expensive Y connectors go 5$ or maybe 10$, you'll need 2. I don't know how much such a connnector would run if you went to all-Cardas material. A lot more, for sure. Some would probably NOT want the cheapest Y based on listening experience.
For more biamp stuff, look at my 'Noodle' thread with the block diagram of a proposed amp, using a pair of nCore400 modules and SMPS. The included MiniDSP makes it easy for to use a a biamp. All the splitting is 'internal' to the amp and it would be adjusted by connection to a computer. I've already spec'd internal balanced cable as Mogami.
Too much is never enough
I've been biamping, triamping, active/passive, horizontal or vertical since the very early eighties, it is what it is. Have fun in your journey, and keep in mind simple is usually best.
Martin
Good background and I'll TRY to Keep It Simple (Stupid) = KISS.
I've tried to make my purchases 'forward compatible' with a goal in mind.
Too much is never enough
I just point out that a number of audiophiles do NOT like splitters and some also try to minimize the number of connections.
I have one input per amp and a jumper from the same cable. = 3 connections with others internal to the amp.
splitter with 1 in and 2 out potentially has the same number (3) while any additional cable adds junctions. The splitter, also, unless $$$ is made from some cable over which you have no control.
DIY is a viable option, in that case, too. That may be the best of all worlds. You can get some very premium cable and use good connectors.
Again, the Parasound 'solution' (not really a problem?) is very easy. And requires nothing not already in most persons parts box.
Too much is never enough
Well actually you started out slamming options other than your setup, but now we're finally on the same page, just more than one way to skin a cat. With the Y splitter internal from the manufacturer with the wire of their choice or external with the wire the customers choice, both with the pros and cons this brings.
Glad we could agree on this and hopefully the OP gleaned some insight.
Martin
I love simple.
Complexity always has problems. 4-way speakers almost always have problems to my ears while it would seem to be easier to get a 2-way right.
And No, i don't think I was 'slamming' Y connector system. Others MIGHT, however, based on what I read about cable / connector preferences.
The real fringe might balk at a 10$ Y while giving the nod to some DIY / Cardas type running 100$+ per side.
I merely like and appreciate the forward thinking of Parasound. When I bought the amps, I had NO idea I'd be heading the direction I am or that I would find the additional connection useful.
Too much is never enough
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