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In Reply to: RE: Originally almost bought a CJ posted by Charlie8521 on January 28, 2017 at 08:13:08
more tubey like go with Conrad Johnson. ARC tube equipment are one of the most neutral sounding out there.
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I have no idea where or how you could say the new line of CJ is tubey. Actually that was the first thing that originally threw me for a loop was how NOT tubey it was. The Classic 2SE I have is dead balls on linear and transparent. Tubey it is NOT!
The 6H30 tubes are a troublesome love hate tube. The original Russian version that first catapulted (mainly self advertising and hype) the 6h30 stock to fame are no longer in production and no longer available. Since then it seems a lot of people have been chasing their tails with this tube.
Me personally, I would get gear with difficult tubes.
I don't find any "hate" relationship with current Russian Reflektor 6H30 production as found in top end Audio Research, BAT and Conrad-Johnson gear, despite the notion that NOS military stuff was better.
I haven't found the need to spend any time "rolling" them in my SP20. I just continue enjoying a much higher level of resolution than my previous preamp with both vinyl and digital sources. :)
I think Reflektor IS the one that is not longer available????
Both were/are produced in the same plant in Saratov.
DR production ceased when it closed in 1992. It was later reopened in 1999 and once again makes the 6H30.
I have no experience with recent CJ but the older stuff was 'tubey' sounding to me. ;-) But like I said, I haven't heard any of their new stuff.
The love hate relationship with the 6H30 puzzles me. I haven't found a preamp that sounds 'right' with this tube based on my limited experience. I'm sure good ones exist but.... The ARC that I had were too lean clean with little weight or warmth in the mids. Some call it neutral but regardless, I can get that sound in almost any ss preamp.
On the other hand, the BAT preamps that I've had or auditioned all sounded a slight bit dark / rich but not a lot of top end. These ARC and BAT all use the 6H30 but they sound very different. Go figure.
I preferred the Aesthetics Calypso and the Cary SLP-05. Neither use the 6H30 tube and both are more pleasant to my ears.
Abe-
Conrad Johnson really took a much-improved turn for the better and modern w/ the ACT & ART series of pre-amp. Currently, the ET-3SE is certainly no slouch. We both enjoy Aesthetix Calypso, especially, the Signature edition.
So many excellent pre-amps...so little time.
It might be time for me to have a change of heart with CJ gear. I'd have to take a listen to their newer products.
If you've owned the Calypso or Calypso Signature I'd love to get your impression of it vs some recent CJ preamps.
Yup, we have many more choices today than ever.
Abe-
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Right On! Abe-
the newer/current CJ gear is outstanding, as well as, Aesthetix.
While CJ does not suggest tube-rolling, Aesthetix will have an upper hand for tube rollers. I remember reading your many posts on tube rolling your Calypso.
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