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I have an Aurieges L and love it but I'm putting together a nice turntable: and I'll need a phono and MC stage.As a result,I'm considering upgrading to the Monbrison because of it's built in phono stages (less clutter and fewer Interconnects)while giving up the flexibility of separate phono stages. My question is: Has anyone compared the sound of the linestages of both the Aurieges and Monbrison? This would be an expensive upgrade for me! Thanks
I have had both preamps. The Monbrison needed a step up tranny to handle a Dyna 10x5.
Thanks for the info. I'm planning to use an Ortofon SPU and may have the same issue
... the Monbrison is out - you should select a preamp which has an MC phono stage (not a MM phono stage).
A dealer friend of mine swears by the Doge 8 preamp as having a particularly good phono stage ... this version seems to have taken it to a new level:
The Monbrison has an mc phono stage and will handle mc cartridges from .2mv and up. It is an incredible preamp. I have the Auriges with the mm phono stage and I have never heard better preamps than the Shindo
And another poster said he need to use a SUT with that cartridge, with the Monbrison ... which the OP wants to avoid. Hence my suggestion of a diferent preamp - such as the tweaked Doge 8.
This is from the a report on the up graded Doge 8
" The upgrade allows the
phono section to accept moving coils with an output of .25 mV or greater, straight in, without
a step-up transformer.
So this wouldn't work either
From memory, I think I looked at the dB gain figure and concluded it should be fine.
Well, I guess those who decide to use absurdly LOMCs deserve the hassle they cause themselves! :-))
I don't know about the upgraded Doge, but the previous version had a pretty noisy FET MC stage. Objectionably noisy with my .25mV Denon.
The phono stage performed much better with an external SUT. With the latter it was quiet, though not as noise free as my ARC SP16.
I liked the Doge - a smooth, dynamic full bodied sound - but ultimately it didn't 'gel' in my system. Internal build quality/soldering was...well, 'dodgy'. Nowhere near the quality of the ARC in this respect.
Interesting that it should have been noisy. I have a JFET phono stage which is dead quiet ... though that's perhaps bcoz each channel is powered by 2 x 12v SLAs?
The other gentleman mentioned a Dyna 10.5 cartridge which has an output of 2.5mv which the Monbrisson should handle just fine. The op cartridge I agree would not be a good match for the Monbrisson, but I would still rather get a good stepup tranny and keep the Monbrisson then go for another preamp. The Shindo pre's and phono stages are quite special
Me, I would use a battery-powered head-amp than a SUT, any day. (Which I need to use for my 0.28mV Benz LP into my 34dB MM phono stage.)
Thank-you for your comments Alan. I love my Aurieges as-well as my Montille. I'd forgotten that Jack Roberts had reviewed both the Aurieges and the Monbrison. The additional expense for the Monbrison would be considerable but somewhat less-so if I factor in the cost of a separate phono and M.C. stage as well as 2 prs. of quality interconnects.I'm waiting for my Garrard 401 plinth to arrive from Jim Campbell and my tonearm to arrive from Thomas Schick.I'm pretty excited about having a vinyl set-up again after so many years.
Thanks Andy-I believe theMonbrison has both phono and MC stages. I think the question is whether it has enough oomph to drive the low output Ortofon SPU.I suppose I could e-mail J.H. at Tone Imports
JLandreth, the Shindo moving coil inputs on the preamps are designed for low impedance cartridges, in particular, Ortofon SPUs. Other options being Miyabi, Koetsu, Transfiguration, Supex, etc...
You also have the option of upgrading by using an external transformer but this will cost a pretty penny both for the transformer and interconnects (as you commented on).
Btw, I owned an Aurieges and have heard the Monbrison extensively (currently own a Masseto). There is a clear and easily heard improvement at each level. If you like your Aurieges, you will be quite pleased with a Monbrison.
I think you are right on track with a SPU. Enjoy!
Thanks Plinko- I just spoke with the guy I got my Montille from and he still has his Monbrison and also used it with an SPU.Maybe later on I can try adding a transformer like a Bob's Devices 1131
I did a review of both preamps for Dagogo.
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