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In Reply to: RE: If you are reaching 1000 hours its way past time.. posted by magiccarpetride on March 19, 2019 at 12:01:18:
a DL-103R and several DL-103D cartridges and I guarantee you the DL-103 will never last 2000 hours. Whoever told you that knows nothing about the DL-103. I doubt Denon would ever say something that foolish.
If you try that cartridge on the HiFiNews test LP torture track it will likely fall apart below +14db and that is not good.
If you look at that stylus under a microscope it will have significant wear spots on both sides of the stylus and that causes distortion. Try listening to LPs that demand more from that cartridge.
On very low velocity LPs it will probably hold together but if you have anything that requires more tracking abilities, that cartridge could not handle it.
I would never use that cartridge on my LPs. Maybe you are lucky but you are asking too much from a conical stylus that is over 1000 hours old.
Ed
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Topic - My Denon DL-103 journey (long boring rant, had to get it off my chest) - magiccarpetride 07:45:29 03/19/19 ( 45)
- Garth would be proud of you . . . ;8^) - Opus 33 1/3 11:24:40 03/19/19 ( 1)
- I still have... - EdAInWestOC 10:43:05 03/20/19 ( 0)
Thats a good description... - EdAInWestOC 08:19:06 03/19/19 ( 27)
- I thought the 103 was (and is) a broadcast cartridge. - Dave Pogue 18:20:05 03/19/19 ( 22)
- RE: 150-300 hours: Another Internet Myth - kitch29 08:54:51 03/20/19 ( 9)
- You obviously don't know much about the 103... - EdAInWestOC 10:48:23 03/20/19 ( 8)
- RE: You obviously don't know much about the 103... - kitch29 13:02:20 03/20/19 ( 4)
- RE: You obviously don't know much about the 103... - TubeDriver 06:03:36 03/21/19 ( 2)
- RE: You obviously don't know much about the 103... - magiccarpetride 10:35:29 03/21/19 ( 1)
- RE: You obviously don't know much about the 103... - TubeDriver 12:55:47 03/21/19 ( 0)
- FWIW - ghost of olddude55 14:06:34 03/20/19 ( 0)
- RE: You obviously don't know much about the 103... - magiccarpetride 11:07:43 03/20/19 ( 2)
- Oh, and by the way... - EdAInWestOC 05:16:18 03/21/19 ( 0)
- How much...how many db? nt - EdAInWestOC 12:55:00 03/20/19 ( 0)
The 103 I had transplanted then later sent to Peter for a retip had at least 500-600 hours on it - Opus 33 1/3 04:49:57 03/20/19 ( 4)
- Have you read what Peter has to say on the subject? - EdAInWestOC 05:02:48 03/20/19 ( 3)
- Ya know, I've spoken to Peter on the phone... - ghost of olddude55 05:12:22 03/20/19 ( 2)
- And... - EdAInWestOC 06:59:06 03/20/19 ( 1)
- The only place I'd disagree with Lederman (and it's minor) - ghost of olddude55 08:05:13 03/20/19 ( 0)
Isn't 600 hours for a conical more like it? nt - ghost of olddude55 03:54:06 03/20/19 ( 0)
RE: I thought the 103 was (and is) a broadcast cartridge. - magiccarpetride 18:40:33 03/19/19 ( 5)
- Wonder what's up with that hypothesis of 250 hours? - bare 18:59:14 03/19/19 ( 4)
- It may be all about (or mostly about) the money - Dave Pogue 08:10:14 03/20/19 ( 1)
- Baaa....baaaa..... - ghost of olddude55 08:14:09 03/20/19 ( 0)
- The amount of distortion generated by the cartridge... - EdAInWestOC 04:59:48 03/20/19 ( 1)
- JICO is probably right. - ghost of olddude55 05:20:09 03/20/19 ( 0)
RE: Thats a good description... - magiccarpetride 09:35:49 03/19/19 ( 3)
- If you are reaching 1000 hours its way past time.. - EdAInWestOC 10:34:17 03/19/19 ( 2)
- RE: If you are reaching 1000 hours its way past time.. - magiccarpetride 12:01:18 03/19/19 ( 1)
- I have owned the DL-103.. - EdAInWestOC 03/19/19 12:23:27 03/19/19 ( 0)
Thanks, for the effort and read - FenderLover 08:01:19 03/19/19 ( 10)
- RE: Thanks, for the effort and read - magiccarpetride 12:32:04 03/19/19 ( 4)
- RE: Thanks, for the effort and read - flood2 16:53:28 03/19/19 ( 3)
- RE: Thanks, for the effort and read - magiccarpetride 18:10:14 03/19/19 ( 1)
- The Rega is straight, the Jelco is bent. - FenderLover 02:11:36 03/20/19 ( 0)
- My experience, post Soundsmith - FenderLover 17:14:01 03/19/19 ( 0)
Is the 103 the same as a 103D ? - Grant99 09:59:15 03/19/19 ( 4)
- Nope. The D is an elliptical. The stock 103 a conical. /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 11:26:21 03/19/19 ( 1)
- Actually its a "Special Elliptical" w/freq response specs out to 65kHz...nt - EdAInWestOC 11:35:14 03/19/19 ( 0)
Absolutely not... - viridian 10:30:46 03/19/19 ( 0)
RE: Is the 103 the same as a 103D ? - FenderLover 10:22:23 03/19/19 ( 0)
RE: My Denon DL-103 journey (long boring rant, had to get it off my chest) - louie3 07:55:06 03/19/19 ( 3)
- RE: My Denon DL-103 journey (long boring rant, had to get it off my chest) - magiccarpetride 09:32:59 03/19/19 ( 2)
- Remember to give some credit to that tone arm - Dave Pogue 19:11:57 03/19/19 ( 0)
- I like reports of happiness, and sometimes struggle to reply in kind. - beach cruiser 16:34:28 03/19/19 ( 0)