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In Reply to: Ruined by early Dyna? posted by M3 lover on August 10, 2022 at 07:46:47:
That's interesting, and not unlike a few other audio histories that I've heard. My experience was considerably different, and I think it speaks to objectively better sound quality with tubes that has nothing to do with nostalgia or conditioning.
Because of my jobs at factory warranty centers in the '70s and '80s, I had the privilege of listening to some of the era's best in SS, including Crown, Phase Linear, Levinson, Dynaco, B&O, Yamaha, Pioneer, Sansui, Kenwood, etc. There was always the occasional tube-type amp, but only the best and largest held up well paired with the grossly inefficient speakers of the day. My own systems during that time and for many years later were all SS.
Then, about 20-something years ago, I experienced a sonic epiphany. For whatever reason, I bought an HK A500 from a friend at work ($20), along with a few unrelated pieces. The amp was really filthy and unloved, and had been stored in his garage for a long time. I didn't expect much, but after cleaning it up a little, I connected it into my system just for grins. The sound from that amp was astonishing, and it simply walked all over my Luxman M120. I immediately set about building a small single-ended 6V6 amp, and the Luxman went to the big auction site a few weeks later. I've been building and listening to tube gear ever since.
For me, the difference between the two technologies is real and distinct. I'll never go back to solid state.
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Topic - ? progress - fstein 07:43:34 08/1/22 ( 27)
- Ruined by early Dyna? - M3 lover 07:46:47 08/10/22 ( 20)
- A Different Experience - Triode_Kingdom 08/11/22 08:20:32 08/11/22 ( 3)
- RE: A Different Experience - bare 19:26:38 08/24/22 ( 0)
- RE: A Different Experience - sony6060 11:06:27 08/15/22 ( 1)
- RE: A Different Experience - Hornlover 08:05:28 08/17/22 ( 0)
RE: Ruined by early Dyna? - Hornlover 08:11:01 08/11/22 ( 15)
- Whilst true Hafler could wind some mean Xformers, ED LAURENT designed the Dynaco circuit~nT - Cleantimestream 14:07:07 08/11/22 ( 11)
- I remember Keroes winding tranny's not Hafler - Story 14:20:35 08/11/22 ( 10)
- I thought Keroes and Hafler worked together at Acrosound - Tre' 07:54:08 08/17/22 ( 1)
- Yes, Keroes was gone before Dyna was started. Link. - viridian 08:04:11 08/17/22 ( 0)
- They were all David Hafler's patents... I assumed he did some of the work too~nT - Cleantimestream 07:39:09 08/14/22 ( 7)
- How transformers are made - airtime 06:58:23 08/17/22 ( 5)
- RE: How transformers are made - Cleantimestream 03:04:23 08/20/22 ( 0)
- While walking through one of the electronic districts in Taipei, I saw - alaskahiatt 20:22:06 08/17/22 ( 2)
- RE: While walking through one of the electronic districts in Taipei, I saw - airtime 07:19:18 08/18/22 ( 1)
- RE: While walking through one of the electronic districts in Taipei, I saw - Tre' 07:25:56 08/18/22 ( 0)
- maybe you can help this guy - Story 07:20:13 08/17/22 ( 0)
He called the shots - Story 14:04:07 08/14/22 ( 0)
IMHO, Ed Laurent and Bob Tucker should also get their due in the design of the ST-70. nt - viridian 08:33:22 08/11/22 ( 2)
- RE: IMHO, Ed Laurent and Bob Tucker should also get their due in the design of the ST-70. nt - hahax@verizon.net 21:07:45 08/14/22 ( 0)
yes indeed, a team of designers usually turns out better and faster /nt - Story 13:08:32 08/11/22 ( 0)
RE: ? progress - airtime 06:51:22 08/4/22 ( 0)
RE: ? progress - rockdoc 21:14:45 08/3/22 ( 0)
RE: ? progress - Palustris 07:57:00 08/3/22 ( 0)
Would a hafler 110/200 setup still be up to contemporary standards? - kff 10:31:26 08/1/22 ( 0)
RE: ? progress - 6bq5 09:55:00 08/1/22 ( 0)
No, IMHO, absolutely not. But they are fun. nt - viridian 07:54:53 08/1/22 ( 0)