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In Reply to: Efficiency, Power and Realism posted by Mike Bates on October 22, 2003 at 14:04:57:
Interesting post. I think the only thing you left out is the reality of recorded music. A microphone might be capable of the whole dynamic range of our hearing, but the microphone preamp will compress loud peaks. Also, there will be further compression one way or another before it ever makes it onto the CD, LP, whatever.My point is that recorded music is always compressed and if you set the average listening level the same as the original event, the peaks will never reach the same level. Conversely, if you set the peak level the same as the original event, the average levels will be much higher than the original. The other thing to consider is that compression usually produces high second order harmonics, which makes it subjectively sound louder at the same output level.
There are just too many factors that make it impossible to reproduce music accurately at home.
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Topic - Efficiency, Power and Realism - Mike Bates 14:04:57 10/22/03 ( 85)
- Re: Efficiency... - SteveB 15:28:39 10/23/03 ( 10)
- Re: Efficiency... - MarkWilk 17:44:14 10/23/03 ( 0)
- Re: Efficiency... - Mike Bates 16:19:51 10/23/03 ( 8)
- Re: Efficiency... - SteveB 00:51:10 10/24/03 ( 7)
- Re: Efficiency... - Mike Bates 06:40:10 10/25/03 ( 0)
- Re: Efficiency... - mikebake 16:17:12 10/24/03 ( 5)
- Re: Efficiency... - SteveB 05:59:26 10/25/03 ( 4)
- Re: Efficiency... - mikebake 11:20:17 10/25/03 ( 3)
- Re: Efficiency... - SteveB 13:42:18 10/25/03 ( 2)
- Re: Efficiency... - mikebake 20:13:46 10/25/03 ( 1)
- Re: Efficiency... - eso 00:03:56 10/26/03 ( 0)
RE: Headroom - eso 11:29:38 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: RE: Headroom - keto 19:22:16 10/23/03 ( 1)
- ...Cut your system some slack...LOL - eso 23:18:57 10/23/03 ( 0)
Recording Perspective: a sigh should just be a sigh - AstroSonic 10:43:19 10/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: Recording Perspective: a sigh should just be a sigh - mikebake 12:13:58 10/23/03 ( 0)
More from the same book - Mike Bates 10:27:48 10/23/03 ( 0)
Re: a fly in the ointment? - MarkWilk 10:23:50 10/23/03 ( 11)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - mikebake 11:41:34 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - MarkWilk 17:30:58 10/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - mikebake 16:09:29 10/24/03 ( 0)
Re: a fly in the ointment? - Mike Bates 10:43:17 10/23/03 ( 7)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - MarkWilk 17:25:28 10/23/03 ( 0)
Re: a fly in the ointment? - mikebake 12:10:42 10/23/03 ( 5)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - Mike Bates 16:25:25 10/23/03 ( 4)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - mikebake 17:09:55 10/23/03 ( 3)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - Mike Bates 08:08:08 10/24/03 ( 2)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - mikebake 16:20:53 10/24/03 ( 1)
- Re: a fly in the ointment? - Mike Bates 08:00:59 10/25/03 ( 0)
No argument here; isn't that what the goal with HE is? - mikebake 09:42:57 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: No argument here; isn't that what the goal with HE is? - Mike Bates 09:51:18 10/23/03 ( 1)
- CD versus live? - mikebake 10:08:36 10/23/03 ( 0)
Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - Bob Johnson 10/23/03 08:45:55 10/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - Mike Bates 08:54:20 10/23/03 ( 0)
Get a pair of good headphones and stop being anal. - Alan Breece 08:22:38 10/23/03 ( 7)
- irregardless what the ladies tell you, _size_ does count! -nt - Triodeuser 19:48:32 10/23/03 ( 0)
Thanks but - Mike Bates 08:39:12 10/23/03 ( 5)
- What I like - Alan Breece 09:22:58 10/23/03 ( 4)
- Re: What I like - mikebake 10:34:52 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: What I like - Alan Breece 13:57:44 10/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: What I like - mikebake 14:24:28 10/23/03 ( 0)
- Re: What I like - Mike Bates 09:35:15 10/23/03 ( 0)
70db sound barrier at my home - GUEST 22:45:37 10/22/03 ( 0)
Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - eso 21:13:55 10/22/03 ( 2)
- Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - Mike Bates 06:50:43 10/23/03 ( 1)
- Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - eso 07:03:26 10/23/03 ( 0)
83db at listening postion, too loud to talk over - kloss 20:11:13 10/22/03 ( 0)
4000 watts would suffice.... - Rod M 19:46:05 10/22/03 ( 1)
- LOL:>) nt. - Robert Hamel 20:35:02 10/22/03 ( 0)
Most of us just don't have that kind of headroom. - Robert Hamel 19:16:30 10/22/03 ( 0)
Brief description of dynamic linearity.. - RBP 19:11:44 10/22/03 ( 21)
- Re: Brief description of dynamic linearity.. - Mike Bates 19:30:58 10/22/03 ( 20)
- Hey don't diss him - I think he was clarifying, not disagreeing. - hollowboy 22:23:15 10/22/03 ( 19)
- Re: Hey don't diss him - I think he was clarifying, not disagreeing. - Mike Bates 06:12:04 10/23/03 ( 16)
- clarify - hollowboy 22:00:15 10/23/03 ( 15)
- Re: clarify - what loudspeaker? - Mike Bates 22:35:44 10/23/03 ( 14)
- This is not an ad. - RBP 06:51:02 10/24/03 ( 13)
- Re: This is not an ad. - Mike Bates 08:22:08 10/24/03 ( 0)
- It doesn't solve the mystery either. - Mike Bates 07:56:20 10/24/03 ( 11)
- Re: It doesn't solve the mystery either. - RBP 08:03:44 10/24/03 ( 10)
- ...the mystery - Mark Seaton 15:16:27 10/26/03 ( 0)
- Re: Bullshit - Tom Brennan 17:42:52 10/24/03 ( 8)
- Start cival please - RBP 06:08:40 10/25/03 ( 7)
- Re: Start cival please- did once, you changed it - Mike Bates 06:49:48 10/25/03 ( 6)
- Agree its hard to believe the claims but are the insults neccessary?? - Roland N 06:25:51 10/26/03 ( 5)
- I was taught respect begins with being honest. - Mike Bates 08:44:59 10/26/03 ( 4)
- Just because you disagree does not mean he is lying or it's BS - Roland N 20:26:48 10/26/03 ( 3)
- Re: Just because you disagree does not mean he is lying or it's BS - Mike Bates 22:10:10 10/26/03 ( 2)
- Re: Just because you disagree does not mean he is lying or it's BS - RBP 22:26:27 10/26/03 ( 1)
- Re: Just because you disagree does not mean he is lying or it's BS - Mike Bates 22:41:09 10/26/03 ( 0)
Re: Hey don't diss him - I think he was clarifying, not disagreeing. - weltersys 23:40:18 10/22/03 ( 1)
- Re: Hey don't diss him - I think he was clarifying, not disagreeing. - RBP 15:52:15 10/27/03 ( 0)
preaching to the converted - keto 17:33:16 10/22/03 ( 11)
- Realistic Reproduction - Mike Bates 18:01:01 10/22/03 ( 10)
- Re: Realistic Reproduction - keto 20:22:59 10/22/03 ( 3)
- Re: Realistic Reproduction - Dave-A 06:25:55 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: Realistic Reproduction - Mike Bates 06:37:01 10/23/03 ( 0)
- Re: Realistic Reproduction - keto 06:35:11 10/23/03 ( 0)
Re: Realistic Reproduction - flam 19:10:27 10/22/03 ( 5)
- Please explain - Mike Bates 19:22:20 10/22/03 ( 4)
- Re: Please explain - Paul Scearce 07:57:45 10/23/03 ( 3)
- Dither - Mike Bates 08:16:58 10/23/03 ( 2)
- Re: Dither - Tom Dawson 22:57:27 10/23/03 ( 0)
- Thanks - Paul Scearce 11:05:01 10/23/03 ( 0)
Re: Efficiency, Power and Realism - lone star listener 16:57:53 10/22/03 ( 0)