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In Reply to: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed posted by zog on July 1, 2003 at 09:06:32:
Hmmm. I haven't been disappointed at all with SACD as a medium. As with its predecessors, some SACDs are better than others. Regarding the machines, I have no good reason to believe that the decoding is flawed, that the power supplies in reasonable quality machines need replacing, that the output stages are anything but linear in frequency response and low in noise.But I can certainly identify the disc with which I was most disappointed: DG 471 640-2. Not only do the SACD and CD layers sound so much alike that the few seconds it takes to switch layers erodes any differences that might linger in my mind, but both layers sound like the mid-price reissue on DG Galleria from a while back. Oh well.
There are others that are sure to disappoint. Out of the ones Zog mentioned, I have the Turina and the Mozart, both of which I find enjoyable from a musical and a recording standpoint.
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Topic - SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - zog 09:06:32 07/1/03 ( 93)
- SACD - Mad George 07/6/03 11:03:31 07/6/03 ( 0)
How long have you allowed for break-in? - Pacman 06:22:49 07/3/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - adamV 10:24:38 07/2/03 ( 0)
Does music sound dry on top... - Sam Lord 08:45:18 07/2/03 ( 2)
- Re: Does music sound dry on top... - zog 13:54:23 07/2/03 ( 1)
- Good plan. But I hope you consider tubes once more... - Sam Lord 18:55:47 07/3/03 ( 0)
SACD isn't vinyl - Stephen 01:48:04 07/2/03 ( 39)
- Tony Faulkner sums it up... - tunenut 11:02:21 07/2/03 ( 38)
- Faulkner on Pro SACD playback vs. budget commercial gear - DkB 21:24:37 07/2/03 ( 22)
- Re: Faulkner on Pro SACD playback vs. budget commercial gear - Bob Neill 07:12:14 07/3/03 ( 0)
- Ronald Prent (Galaxy studios) and Jean Marie Geijsen (Polyhymnia) - Frank 04:39:00 07/3/03 ( 6)
- Re: Ronald Prent (Galaxy studios) and Jean Marie Geijsen (Polyhymnia) - Ted Smith 09:53:53 07/3/03 ( 5)
- Well, - Frank 10:23:13 07/3/03 ( 4)
- Re: Well, - Ted Smith 20:04:57 07/3/03 ( 3)
- That's not possible - Frank 01:32:23 07/4/03 ( 2)
- Re: That's not possible - Ted Smith 01:47:46 07/4/03 ( 1)
- We still need input filtering... - Frank 03:17:57 07/4/03 ( 0)
- very interesting... - tunenut 22:22:40 07/2/03 ( 13)
- Good points, tunenut. - DkB 23:25:55 07/2/03 ( 0)
- Don't forget the power of the track-repeat procedure... - jeromelang 23:23:03 07/2/03 ( 11)
- if only that worked for me... - tunenut 23:39:23 07/2/03 ( 10)
- Actually I prefer SCD-1 in his system - jeromelang 00:10:05 07/3/03 ( 9)
- let me focus on just one aspect... - tunenut 00:32:01 07/3/03 ( 8)
- Let's not beat about the bush... - jeromelang 01:49:12 07/3/03 ( 7)
- agree to disagree - tunenut 07:14:28 07/3/03 ( 1)
- Richard Kern is a business man........ - jeromelang 18:14:32 07/3/03 ( 0)
- 'top-tapping' ? <nt> - Frank 04:15:47 07/3/03 ( 4)
- That should be "toe-tapping" : - ) - jeromelang 05:17:54 07/3/03 ( 3)
- Ah, 'foot tapping' you mean. - Frank 10:37:08 07/3/03 ( 2)
- Ah,...Frank..... - jeromelang 21:16:56 07/3/03 ( 1)
- Re: Ah,...Frank..... - Frank 01:05:42 07/4/03 ( 0)
One person's meat is another's poison - Christine Tham 17:34:48 07/2/03 ( 5)
- the point is that a very good judgment can - Plush 12:17:17 07/3/03 ( 4)
- Re: the point is that a very good judgment can - Christine Tham 14:36:03 07/3/03 ( 3)
- Re: the point is that a very good judgment can - Plush 09:18:12 07/4/03 ( 2)
- DSD=2822.4 Kb/s; 192/24 = 4608 Kb/s - Christine Tham 23:47:12 07/4/03 ( 0)
- You need to help me out a bit here ... - Christine Tham 21:35:21 07/4/03 ( 0)
Re: Tony Faulkner sums it up... - Stephen 15:27:34 07/2/03 ( 2)
- here is his rationale - tunenut 17:23:21 07/2/03 ( 1)
- If you do so some searches ... - Stephen 17:38:00 07/2/03 ( 0)
Antiseptic A to D converters - Ric Schultz 12:11:46 07/2/03 ( 5)
- agreed, this is a comment on current state of the art... - tunenut 13:39:27 07/2/03 ( 0)
Or rebuild from scratch... - Frank 12:54:18 07/2/03 ( 3)
- Certainly we will see refinement of design - Plush 12:11:04 07/3/03 ( 2)
- That's true, - Frank 13:26:44 07/3/03 ( 1)
- Happy 4th to Incarcerated Inmates. . . - Plush 09:12:04 07/4/03 ( 0)
Deriving Analogue from SACD: Address Optical/Digital Hardware Vulnerabilities! - DkB 23:07:21 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - sidssp 22:23:28 07/1/03 ( 1)
- Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - zog 04:36:04 07/2/03 ( 0)
Take fine 300 sandpaper scuff up the playing surfaceand you'll get all those Snap Crackle & pops - Joe M 21:16:01 07/1/03 ( 4)
- Re: Take fine 300 sandpaper scuff up the playing surfaceand you'll get all those Snap Crackle & pops - zog 04:41:02 07/2/03 ( 2)
- My LPs don't snap crackle or pop - Pacman 06:40:04 07/3/03 ( 0)
- Would you like to hear another SACD player? - Nietzsche 07:45:56 07/2/03 ( 0)
Maybe your VTA is too high or you have awfully dirty records. (nt) - Teresa 21:39:37 07/1/03 ( 0)
If you buy only one sacd make it - Penguin 19:40:32 07/1/03 ( 0)
SACD vs. Vinyl - Willie The Squid 17:43:52 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - oldmkvi 17:09:31 07/1/03 ( 0)
Don't Care About The Performance? - Robertc88 15:18:18 07/1/03 ( 5)
- Re: Don't Care About The Performance? - zog 16:35:02 07/1/03 ( 4)
- Ellington's "Blues In Orbit" - If This One Doesn't Sound Good - Robertc88 15:28:24 07/2/03 ( 2)
- Re: Ellington's "Blues In Orbit" - If This One Doesn't Sound Good - zog 18:22:48 07/2/03 ( 1)
- This is the most hyped SACD ever - jeromelang 00:14:23 07/3/03 ( 0)
- Re: Don't Care About The Performance? - Loki 00:04:49 07/2/03 ( 0)
Try Exton's Tchaikovsky Manfred with Kobayashi - flyingdutchman 15:14:19 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - Jack G 14:23:40 07/1/03 ( 3)
- That's funny, I was thinking almost the same thing about hifi systems... nt - Methos 15:01:27 07/1/03 ( 2)
- Your point? (nt) - Jack G 14:17:26 07/2/03 ( 1)
- My point is that the discs aren't always to blame for rather consistently "mediocre" results. - Methos 16:29:02 07/2/03 ( 0)
a few thoughts - tunenut 13:35:41 07/1/03 ( 0)
Wispelwey: Britten's Cello Suites on Channel Classics n.t. - Bob Neill 13:30:51 07/1/03 ( 2)
- Re: Wispelwey: Britten's Cello Suites on Channel Classics n.t. - Bob Neill 07:17:12 07/3/03 ( 0)
Re: Wispelwey: Britten's Cello Suites on Channel Classics n.t. - anevsky 17:34:29 07/1/03 ( 0)
"None of them sounded as good as a decent LP." - Dave Pogue 12:09:41 07/1/03 ( 0)
SACD is better than CD, but not necessarily better than vinyl... - Placido the Cat 12:06:46 07/1/03 ( 2)
- I am also beginning to feel this way too.... - sxr71 18:41:44 07/2/03 ( 0)
Do think that you are alone ?.. - patrickU 13:07:31 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - Larry I 12:00:10 07/1/03 ( 0)
Break in and interconnects are important .. - SoftwireEngineer 11:51:05 07/1/03 ( 3)
- Interested In What You Have Compared - Robertc88 15:31:17 07/1/03 ( 2)
- Re: Interested In What You Have Compared - SoftwireEngineer 20:11:36 07/1/03 ( 1)
- Sony 9000ES versus XA777ES - Robertc88 15:37:25 07/2/03 ( 0)
Make certain you've satisfied your P.I.M.P. first... - Methos 11:15:48 07/1/03 ( 0)
Why don't you be more specific........ - Chris Garrett 10:45:40 07/1/03 ( 0)
I too would suggest you let the player season - sgb 10:39:48 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - fmak 10:37:29 07/1/03 ( 0)
Give it some time - pburant 09:46:14 07/1/03 ( 3)
- Re: Give it some time - zog 09:59:20 07/1/03 ( 1)
- That's a very reasonable course of action; I see your point. - Audiophilander 11:12:19 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: Give it some time - jtube 09:59:15 07/1/03 ( 0)
Wow! Who modded your unit? - Audiophilander 09:37:20 07/1/03 ( 2)
- Re: Wow! Who modded your unit? - zog 10:01:06 07/1/03 ( 1)
- a good one - bobwood 16:36:53 07/1/03 ( 0)
Re: SACD Disappointment - Help Needed - Khorn 09:34:00 07/1/03 ( 0)
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