General Asylum: Personally I like the noise, grain, and fake sense of depth by Feanor

Topic - Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 08:38:12 07/17/18 ( 103)

RE: Loving Tubes - TubeDriver 10:33:58 07/24/18 ( 6)
- RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 10:56:51 07/24/18 ( 5)
  - RE: Loving Tubes - TubeDriver 13:43:50 07/24/18 ( 4)
    - RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 14:28:10 07/24/18 ( 3)
      - RE: Loving Tubes - RGA 11:59:16 07/25/18 ( 2)
        
        RE: Loving Tubes - TubeDriver 12:52:46 07/25/18 ( 0)
        
        RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 12:14:24 07/25/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - RGA 17:59:39 07/22/18 ( 3)
- RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 05:10:28 07/23/18 ( 2)
  - RE: Loving Tubes - RGA 08:03:51 07/23/18 ( 1)
    - RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 08:36:23 07/23/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - c1ferrari 18:20:26 07/20/18 ( 0)
Trying to get tubes out of my system - jedrider 20:35:00 07/19/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Donald North 16:02:28 07/19/18 ( 1)
- RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 06:27:02 07/20/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Wojciech 13:50:59 07/19/18 ( 0)
RE: The Problem With Tubes... - fred76 10:54:01 07/19/18 ( 1)
- Reichert - Bob Neill 13:15:37 07/19/18 ( 0)
I like my fancy tube buffer.. The music just sounds a little fuller. nt - toothpaste 19:50:14 07/18/18 ( 0)
Always pick the one with the highest Total Harmonic Distortion. Nt - geoffkait 05:19:58 07/18/18 ( 2)
- Hiraga would say the highest second harmonic distortion. nt - viridian 14:36:01 07/18/18 ( 1)
  - RE: Hiraga would say the highest second harmonic distortion. nt - geoffkait 05:38:52 07/19/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving - hifitommy 22:10:54 07/17/18 ( 4)
- RE: Loving - Dave B 06:58:04 07/18/18 ( 3)
  - I remember that. - Todd A. 19:21:41 07/23/18 ( 0)
  - thankewe - hifitommy 10:40:40 07/18/18 ( 1)
    - I clearly remember first hearing the SP-3a1 - E-Stat 11:07:29 07/18/18 ( 0)
Seems there's more there there... - musetap 21:01:43 07/17/18 ( 0)
limited experience in my system - G Squared 17:38:48 07/17/18 ( 0)
I understood it as a tradeoff - Ross 17:09:32 07/17/18 ( 3)
- "Tube amps produce mostly even order" ? - Timbo in Oz 22:48:29 07/17/18 ( 2)
  - I'd also add that valve amps don't seem to have the problems with higher order harmonics above and way above - Timbo in Oz 16:58:44 07/18/18 ( 0)
  - RE: "Tube amps produce mostly even order" ? - Awe-d-o-file 08:22:07 07/18/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - CG 15:52:23 07/17/18 ( 2)
- RE: Loving Tubes - Ruinthere@sbcglobal.net 20:12:23 07/18/18 ( 1)
  - RE: Loving Tubes - CG 09:47:16 07/19/18 ( 0)
They add color to my music - Byrd69 14:32:05 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - BCR 13:56:59 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 13:30:27 07/17/18 ( 2)
- Some of us have both and like the results. - Rick W 17:35:00 07/17/18 ( 0)
- Simple - E-Stat 15:14:24 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Alex F. 13:21:57 07/17/18 ( 0)
Both tubes and solid state have colorations - Ralph 12:49:49 07/17/18 ( 30)
- Look at the tests in Stereophile. SS or tube, full of no perfection trash. nt - toothpaste 16:09:31 07/19/18 ( 0)
- Ralph, you're biased ;-)...(nt) - mkuller 21:01:57 07/17/18 ( 1)
  - Yeah, usually class A2 ;-)...(nt) - Ralph 10:35:47 07/18/18 ( 0)
- RE: Both tubes and solid state have colorations - CG 15:33:08 07/17/18 ( 26)
  - Excellent point! - Ralph 10:34:48 07/18/18 ( 9)
    - In the link I provided by Nelson Pass - E-Stat 12:48:45 07/18/18 ( 1)
      - So, reducing my IM by 35% would be a good thing? - 1973shovel 10:32:49 07/19/18 ( 0)
    - RE: Excellent point! - CG 11:25:16 07/18/18 ( 6)
      - RE: Excellent point! - Ralph 12:05:01 07/18/18 ( 5)
        
        RE: Excellent point! - CG 13:20:35 07/18/18 ( 4)
        
        RE: Excellent point! - Ralph 13:39:54 07/18/18 ( 3)
        
        RE: Excellent point! - CG 14:01:03 07/18/18 ( 2)
        
        RE: Excellent point! - Bob Neill 14:04:54 07/19/18 ( 1)
        
        RE: Excellent point! - CG 18:27:52 07/19/18 ( 0)
  - And circuits have most certainly changed - E-Stat 18:04:51 07/17/18 ( 12)
    - RE: And circuits have most certainly changed - CG 18:33:19 07/17/18 ( 11)
      - RE: And circuits have most certainly changed - 6bq5 17:30:27 07/18/18 ( 7)
        
        "The basic circuit has NOT changed " - E-Stat 17:45:07 07/18/18 ( 6)
        
        RE: "The basic circuit has NOT changed " - 6bq5 08:42:55 07/19/18 ( 5)
        
        RE: "The basic circuit has NOT changed " - CG 16:12:49 07/22/18 ( 0)
        
        first balanced circuits in high end audio - Ralph 10:01:59 07/19/18 ( 0)
        
        "It may be a 'new' application in Audio..." - E-Stat 09:24:06 07/19/18 ( 2)
        
        RE: "It may be a 'new' application in Audio..." - morricab 01:18:12 07/20/18 ( 1)
        
        Agreed - E-Stat 11:44:54 07/20/18 ( 0)
      - RE: And circuits have most certainly changed - E-Stat 18:41:19 07/17/18 ( 2)
        
        RE: And circuits have most certainly changed - CG 18:48:55 07/17/18 ( 1)
        
        RE: And circuits have most certainly changed - E-Stat 19:22:16 07/17/18 ( 0)
  - IMD in modulated channels - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 17:54:17 07/17/18 ( 2)
    - RE: IMD in modulated channels - CG 18:25:02 07/17/18 ( 1)
      - Understood, and agreed :) (nt) - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 15:35:18 07/18/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - E-Stat 12:16:27 07/17/18 ( 2)
- RE: Loving Tubes - mkuller 21:00:20 07/17/18 ( 1)
  - RE: Loving Tubes - E-Stat 06:16:50 07/18/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - acres verde 11:56:44 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Mortsnets 11:14:46 07/17/18 ( 0)
With SETs, anyway, distortion is almost entirely the benign second harmonic - Brian H P 10:40:44 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - 6bq5 10:30:58 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Palustris 10:18:23 07/17/18 ( 1)
- RE: Loving Tubes - CG 18:40:38 07/17/18 ( 0)
Loving Tubes - mkuller 10:02:34 07/17/18 ( 1)
- Nice summary - AbeCollins 10:23:51 07/17/18 ( 0)
Context - Bob Neill 10:01:09 07/17/18 ( 4)
- RE: Context - Frihed89 15:45:56 07/17/18 ( 3)
  - RE: Context - Bob Neill 10:58:53 07/18/18 ( 2)
    - RE: Context - Frihed89 12:58:45 07/18/18 ( 1)
      - RE: Context - Bob Neill 13:25:11 07/18/18 ( 0)
I think it's the expense and inconvenience of it ... (nt) - Sondek 09:51:15 07/17/18 ( 8)
- Like vinyl? ;) - E-Stat 14:54:28 07/17/18 ( 5)
  - That's nothing. - Dave Pogue 05:03:54 07/19/18 ( 1)
    - I dabbled with R2R as a teen - E-Stat 08:00:14 07/19/18 ( 0)
  - Exactly like vinyl. (nt) - Sondek 19:10:26 07/17/18 ( 1)
    - Old designs, yes - E-Stat 19:25:24 07/17/18 ( 0)
  - Vinyl - Bob Neill 15:00:35 07/17/18 ( 0)
- -- and the heat and the lethal voltages :) (nt) - mhardy6647 12:55:15 07/17/18 ( 1)
  - Heat yes; voltages no different - Bill Way 16:56:48 07/26/18 ( 0)
Personally I like the noise, grain, and fake sense of depth - Feanor 07/17/18 09:18:04 07/17/18 ( 1)
- Fake sense of depth? - Dave_K 13:14:07 07/17/18 ( 0)
RE: Loving Tubes - Craiger56 08:50:40 07/17/18 ( 2)
- RE: Loving Tubes - Bob Neill 09:37:29 07/17/18 ( 1)
  - RE: Loving Tubes - Craiger56 11:08:54 07/17/18 ( 0)