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In Reply to: Discounts, loans, industry accommodation, etc., assumptions posted by Doug Schneider on April 12, 2021 at 13:15:03:
Doug
Well I think you can only speak to your experiences, but I do appreciate your entering this conversation and I am sure this is much you would like to say but for obvious reasons cannot. The truth is that the whole model stinks and it is up to the individual to determine if they trust the publication or the reviewer. The more you discuss these issues with manufacturers the more you understand some of the unspoken realities of this game. Not only is it often pay to play but it is also a question of long term relationships forged over decades. So I do not read or believe any of the rags but do follow of the few e-publications (yours included). Reading between the lines is an absolute requirement when reading the reviews from the big boys.
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Topic - How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - shamburg 14:34:19 03/23/21 ( 46)
- They generally don't want reviewers who aren't rich already. That way they're not easily swayed by $$$$. Nt - geoffkait 03:51:09 03/24/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - hahax@verizon.net 20:48:26 03/23/21 ( 0)
Hmm. Ethical implications? - shamburg 17:09:38 03/23/21 ( 1)
- Ethical implications? - DAP 09:37:26 04/3/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - 6bq5 16:06:44 03/23/21 ( 36)
- Different in this respect - DAP 06:38:14 04/4/21 ( 1)
- RE: Different in this respect - tketcham 08:29:10 04/4/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - Rod M 18:45:51 03/25/21 ( 33)
- There was never a dearth of gear at Sea Cliff - E-Stat 11:21:58 03/27/21 ( 10)
- RE: There was never a dearth of gear at Sea Cliff - Sstone8807@aol.com 12:25:44 03/27/21 ( 9)
- Not quite - E-Stat 13:15:10 03/27/21 ( 8)
- "Give"... yeah MSRP $19,000 is what I was TOLD--not "heard"--TOLD - John Marks 19:03:27 03/27/21 ( 7)
- Nordost got back list price? - Dave_K 11:01:01 03/29/21 ( 3)
- RE: Nordost got back list price? - CG 11:49:38 03/29/21 ( 2)
- Thanks, you said it better than I (nt) - Dave_K 06:08:30 03/30/21 ( 1)
- RE: Thanks, you said it better than I (nt) - CG 06:38:26 03/30/21 ( 0)
- RE: "Give"... yeah MSRP $19,000 is what I was TOLD--not "heard"--TOLD - E-Stat 19:21:46 03/27/21 ( 2)
- No no no - John Marks 19:26:50 03/27/21 ( 1)
- My mistake - E-Stat 08:15:17 03/30/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - j.sautter 18:27:38 03/26/21 ( 1)
- RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - geoffkait 03:38:56 03/27/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - j.sautter 17:02:45 03/26/21 ( 19)
- You lost me at "my guess" - Analog Scott 09:36:36 03/27/21 ( 13)
- RE: You lost me at "my guess" - j.sautter 10:08:03 03/27/21 ( 12)
- I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - Analog Scott 12:44:17 03/27/21 ( 11)
- RE: I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - j.sautter 14:10:30 03/27/21 ( 10)
- Discounts, loans, industry accommodation, etc., assumptions - Doug Schneider 13:15:03 04/12/21 ( 2)
- RE: Discounts, loans, industry accommodation, etc., assumptions - j.sautter 04/22/21 15:03:31 04/22/21 ( 0)
- RE: Discounts, loans, industry accommodation, etc., assumptions - geoffkait 08:41:57 04/14/21 ( 0)
- RE: I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - jamesgarvin 06:34:59 04/6/21 ( 3)
- RE: I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - j.sautter 11:04:02 04/6/21 ( 1)
- RE: I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - John Atkinson 06:05:52 04/7/21 ( 0)
- RE: I thinkyou are confusing basic logicwith assumptions - davem1 08:22:11 04/6/21 ( 0)
- I agree with your point, but I do wonder how much Fremer (and others) can deduct as a biz expense. - Rick W 11:18:57 03/29/21 ( 1)
- 100% but - Analog Scott 17:22:46 03/29/21 ( 0)
"Doesnt prove anything" - Analog Scott 19:45:16 03/27/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - Rod M 18:35:42 03/26/21 ( 4)
- RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - Myles B. Astor 08:40:59 05/9/21 ( 2)
- RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - geoffkait 06:27:21 05/13/21 ( 1)
- RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - Myles B. Astor 09:17:52 05/19/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - j.sautter 03:14:06 03/27/21 ( 0)
RE: How does it work with Harley, Valin, and Heilbrun? - GreatSound 15:54:47 03/23/21 ( 0)
Heilbrun seems to buy a lot of equipment he reviews. - hawkmoon 15:27:14 03/23/21 ( 0)
Whereas, I always wondered about "Sharon, Lois, and Bram." - John Marks 15:24:27 03/23/21 ( 2)
- RE: Whereas, I always wondered about "Sharon, Lois, and Bram." - lord addleford 07:22:38 03/24/21 ( 1)
- What I was riffing off of... - John Marks 18:37:02 03/24/21 ( 0)