Classical Court: RE: Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra by pbarach

Classical Court: RE: Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra by pbarach

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In Reply to: RE: Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra posted by Todd Krieger on January 25, 2023 at 07:56:34:

I missed mentioning a few women who conducted the Cleveland Orchestra. Elim Chan and Karina Kannelakis conducted TCO at Blossom Music Center; Xian Zhang conducted at Severance when Bychkov cancelled, and Jane Glover has conducted twice at Severance.

Jeannette Sorell was denied an audition for a conducting position in Cleveland; Dohnanyi told her that the orchestra wouldn't accept a female conductor. So in 1992 she started Apollo's Fire, a topnotch HIP group.

As for female musicians, for many years Alice Chalifoux (harp) was the only woman in the orchestra. She had to change clothes inside her harp trunk because there was no dressing room for women.

The first Black member in any of the "Big Five" orchestras was Donald White (cello), who joined TCO around 1957.

I'm not sure when the first Asian player was appointed to TCO.

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Topic - I have started to watch "Tar"... - SE 06:45:52 01/21/23 ( 23)

RE: I have started to watch "Tar"... - Todd Krieger 14:51:59 01/24/23 ( 5)
- Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra - pbarach 03:33:51 01/25/23 ( 3)
  - RE: Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra - Todd Krieger 07:56:34 01/25/23 ( 2)
    - RE: Woman conducting the Cleveland Orchestra - pbarach 01/25/23 10:00:25 01/25/23 ( 1)
      - "I'm not sure when the first Asian player was appointed" - Chris from Lafayette 12:47:59 01/25/23 ( 0)
- It's even more unbelivable than that! - Chris from Lafayette 16:05:45 01/24/23 ( 0)
Stick with it... - musetap 12:56:35 01/21/23 ( 1)
- For me, the whole thing collapsed into predictable cliches... - SE 13:15:13 01/21/23 ( 0)
Yeay - I'll try to watch it later today too - it's on Amazon - Chris from Lafayette 10:26:44 01/21/23 ( 12)
- It is quite possible that the entire thing is a kind of post-modern... - SE 10:42:57 01/21/23 ( 11)
  - Kind of liked the first hour or so - Chris from Lafayette 12:19:33 01/22/23 ( 10)
    - Interesting anecdote, thanks! Warning: Long Rant with Spoilers!:-)... - SE 05:10:16 01/23/23 ( 9)
      - Wow, SE! That is a fantastic rant! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:20:56 01/23/23 ( 1)
        
        I knew EGOT, but BIPOC was HIS WORD (the charcter Max)... - SE 13:01:13 01/23/23 ( 0)
      - RE: Interesting anecdote, thanks! Warning: Long Rant with Spoilers!:-)... - ecl876 11:44:03 01/23/23 ( 6)
        
        Agree with your second paragraph... - musetap 22:02:41 01/23/23 ( 0)
        
        I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but... - SE 12:23:32 01/23/23 ( 4)
        
        RE: I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but... - ecl876 14:04:22 01/23/23 ( 3)
        
        You are still doing it. Just talking at and about me... - SE 14:52:03 01/23/23 ( 2)
        
        SE - I think that seems a bit harsh - Just my two cents [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 21:40:58 01/23/23 ( 0)
        
        RE: You are still doing it. Just talking at and about me... - ecl876 15:22:52 01/23/23 ( 0)
This stupidity EXACTLY mirrors my concern!:-)... - SE 10:18:58 01/21/23 ( 1)
- ...and, one last parting shot for now... - SE 10:36:28 01/21/23 ( 0)