Classical Court: These quotes must be from Titania McGrath..... by srl1

This thread got pretty ugly. With that said... - Analog Scott 22:06:15 04/5/21 ( 12)

Thanks! I'm always interested in discovering black classical composers! - Chris from Lafayette 01:42:23 04/6/21 ( 11)
- Do I dare say it?... - SE 05:57:11 04/6/21 ( 10)
  - I think all they really want - Analog Scott 20:51:37 04/6/21 ( 7)
    - Fully agree. But, the road to inclusion should not be littered with exclusion... - SE 08:28:42 04/7/21 ( 6)
      - the road to inclusion should not be littered with exclusion... - Zarlino 18:59:19 04/8/21 ( 5)
        
        "woke elite" is an oxymoron. nt - Rick W 10:07:35 04/14/21 ( 1)
        
        [Chuckling] - It's the elites who are the ones pushing wokeness! - Chris from Lafayette 02:14:27 04/15/21 ( 0)
        
        These quotes must be from Titania McGrath..... - srl1 04/9/21 13:24:54 04/9/21 ( 0)
        
        Sorry, these quotes aren't my definition of having "worked through" the problems. n/t - SE 02:16:26 04/9/21 ( 0)
        
        RE: the road to inclusion should not be littered with exclusion... - Tre' 19:09:24 04/8/21 ( 0)
  - RE: Do I dare say it?... - Daverz 15:42:48 04/6/21 ( 0)
  - Chris, I see that you touched upon some of this... - SE 07:20:25 04/6/21 ( 0)

RE: Do the right thing - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 00:30:26 04/5/21 ( 13)

Which would explain my dislike of 'rap' music... - Ivan303 09:06:54 04/5/21 ( 10)
- I liked rap when it first emerged and I became aware of it through some - tinear 11:27:07 04/5/21 ( 9)
  - As Taj Mahal commented to his live audience about "Rap"... - musetap 14:38:46 04/5/21 ( 8)
    - Perhaps you're too elderly to know all the sub-genres of rap music - Chris from Lafayette 01:57:58 04/6/21 ( 7)
      - It's been a while since you posted this list. - jimbill 22:30:52 04/6/21 ( 4)
        
        "I find it hard to believe you've listened. . . I know I wouldn't" - Ah! The sacrifices I make! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 01:59:00 04/7/21 ( 3)
        
        Not buying it. - jimbill 22:25:16 04/9/21 ( 2)
        
        Rap is my second life - I only wish I had the time for it! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 02:03:09 04/10/21 ( 1)
        
        speaking of Facade - pbarach 13:59:22 04/14/21 ( 0)
      - Only a geezer with an over-inflated ego that haughtily uses stoopid smiley faces... - musetap 09:55:26 04/6/21 ( 1)
        
        Let me ask you some questions, muse. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:52:55 04/6/21 ( 0)
RE: Do the right thing - briggs 07:42:20 04/5/21 ( 1)
- And vice versa... - Ivan303 12:28:07 04/5/21 ( 0)

Irony? - briggs 07:21:23 04/4/21 ( 6)

Yes - my own comments (not the quotations!) just might be ironic ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:46:39 04/4/21 ( 2)
- RE: Yes - my own comments (not the quotations!) just might be ironic ;-) - briggs 13:52:15 04/4/21 ( 1)
  - "The sources unfortunately appear serious" - Yes! Alas! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 14:15:57 04/4/21 ( 0)
RE: Irony? - SE 10:29:28 04/4/21 ( 1)
- RE: Irony? - Todd Krieger 10:53:29 04/4/21 ( 0)
Please Explain...... - Todd Krieger 10:14:03 04/4/21 ( 0)

Chris from Lafayette is this your post? - Zero 06:49:10 04/4/21 ( 42)

That is not my post - that's a different Chris - Chris from Lafayette 11:35:47 04/4/21 ( 0)
RE: Chris from Lafayette is this your post? - Todd Krieger 10:15:01 04/4/21 ( 40)
- I believe Mr. Zero thought he had an "AHA!" moment [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:37:25 04/4/21 ( 39)
  - No, not an 'aha moment. More like a 'wtf' moment... - Zero 12:32:13 04/4/21 ( 38)
    - The worst thing is continuing, every time black music is mentioned on this forum: - tinear 16:02:02 04/4/21 ( 3)
      - And welcome to another round of. . . "Oh! The irony!" - Chris from Lafayette 17:41:36 04/4/21 ( 2)
        
        I read the first words and stopped. I love Beethoven, never said I did not. nt - tinear 11:29:18 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Yeah - I know you're a busy guy, tin. But that's OK - others will read it [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 12:38:05 04/5/21 ( 0)
    - RE: No, not an 'aha moment. More like a 'wtf' moment... - Todd Krieger 15:41:19 04/4/21 ( 3)
      - Romy and Magnetar, for certain... - Ivan303 16:00:16 04/4/21 ( 1)
        
        Totally Forgot About Them...... - Todd Krieger 17:27:26 04/4/21 ( 0)
      - Actually, someone WAS just banned - a couple of his posts are in a thread below - Chris from Lafayette 15:58:31 04/4/21 ( 0)
    - "condescending prick"?... - musetap 14:36:20 04/4/21 ( 6)
      - And yet. . . somehow. . . you're drawn to this forum. . . - Chris from Lafayette 15:30:27 04/4/21 ( 5)
        
        You have very little to do with any knowledge or insight gleaned here... - musetap 16:50:34 04/4/21 ( 4)
        
        Oh dear! The irony meter is pegged! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 17:46:25 04/4/21 ( 3)
        
        Indeed! Good to know you know your place in this place... - musetap 13:51:30 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        Ooh! No smiley? Such hostility! No smiley for you either then [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 13:58:23 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Nothing personal... always did, always will think they are stupid... - musetap 14:41:36 04/5/21 ( 0)
    - Gosh, Zero - I've certainly enjoyed all your posts heretofore - Chris from Lafayette 12:43:52 04/4/21 ( 22)
      - Nope - Zero 18:09:37 04/4/21 ( 21)
        
        So. . . let's review our previous posts for a moment - Chris from Lafayette 19:25:47 04/4/21 ( 20)
        
        Sure. Let's.... - Zero 22:00:41 04/4/21 ( 19)
        
        I think you missed the larger issue. Whenever Chris comments on black - tinear 11:35:14 04/5/21 ( 3)
        
        Pretty desperate are we, tin? That was twice in over 19,000 posts - Chris from Lafayette 12:51:24 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Fair enough - the OP serves up plenty of big targets - Zero 12:07:45 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        "I wasn't aware of the pattern" - A pattern only in tin's deluded mind [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 12:52:53 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        I don't see it as all that... - Ivan303 08:19:05 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        OK, Zero, here we go. . . - Chris from Lafayette 02:45:31 04/5/21 ( 13)
        
        Reframe the problem sets - Zero 09:39:34 04/5/21 ( 11)
        
        Why Zero! I'm so glad you've moved beyond the "you're a condescending prick" rhetoric! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:33:50 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        Response - delayed because of work.... - Zero 08:35:40 04/6/21 ( 1)
        
        Zero - I appreciate VERY much the transformed tone of your posts - Chris from Lafayette 11:46:34 04/6/21 ( 0)
        
        RE: Reframe the problem sets - Rick W 10:56:38 04/5/21 ( 7)
        
        Rick - thanks for your rational post! I appreciate it, and. . . - Chris from Lafayette 12:58:57 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        2 outta 3 ain't bad :-) nt - Rick W 16:14:55 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Well, most days, it's only 1 outta 3! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 02:01:12 04/7/21 ( 0)
        
        I don't know what you listen to, Chris, but in the KC area, both - tinear 11:38:19 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Agreed, wholeheartedly. - Zero 12:12:35 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Agreed. - jimbill 11:01:42 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Thanks Rick W and jimbill - Zero 11:29:53 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Bazinga. nt - srl1 08:23:48 04/5/21 ( 0)

The 'right' thing... - Ivan303 06:08:40 04/4/21 ( 47)

Exactly. And to attack women and black composers/musicians is especially low. This - tinear 12:00:26 04/4/21 ( 21)
- Oops - I almost forgot: does the New Yorker publish "the most extreme viewpoints"? - Chris from Lafayette 13:08:18 04/4/21 ( 17)
  - Shame on your ego for being so out of control that your crap from Central... - musetap 14:34:37 04/4/21 ( 16)
    - What crap from Central? [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 15:25:37 04/4/21 ( 15)
      - I'm chuckling :-) nt - Rick W 08:35:59 04/5/21 ( 14)
        
        Really... like anyone would have the time to document it... - musetap 13:55:30 04/5/21 ( 3)
        
        LOL! More like you don't HAVE any documentation of it - No smiley here either [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 14:02:34 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        You know Chris, our opinions are like everyone else's... - musetap 16:23:54 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Well, at least they don't stink to the ears and eyes as well as the nose. . . - Chris from Lafayette 02:12:36 04/6/21 ( 0)
        
        That's a typical answer from the Church of Woke - Chris from Lafayette 09:09:49 04/5/21 ( 9)
        
        RE: That's a typical answer from the Church of Woke - bald2 11:17:50 04/5/21 ( 5)
        
        Good chance that's... - musetap 16:36:13 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Right on, bald2! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 13:02:59 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        You know what's really strange? Judging an entire people by the fringe. - tinear 11:42:27 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        RE: You know what's really strange? Judging an entire people by the fringe. - bald2 12:44:44 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        RE: You know what's really strange? Judging an entire people by the fringe. - bald2 12:57:31 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Don't lay your "woke" shit on me. - Rick W 11:14:46 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        Geez, Rick - and after we were just about to sing kumbaya together! - Chris from Lafayette 13:18:16 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Dunno how you could think I was into that woke bs or miss that I was kidding. Jeez. nt - Rick W 16:23:54 04/5/21 ( 0)
- tin - I think you're confused as to who was doing the attacking [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:39:32 04/4/21 ( 2)
  - You repeated it, you have a history of race... insensitivity. Also of belittling women. Admit it. Accept it. - tinear 16:05:00 04/4/21 ( 1)
    - Whoah! That IS messed up! - Chris from Lafayette 18:40:20 04/4/21 ( 0)
I Agree Entirely - Mel 10:28:26 04/4/21 ( 0)
To Be Fair...... - Todd Krieger 10:12:28 04/4/21 ( 23)
- RE: To Be Fair...... - Mel 10:30:44 04/4/21 ( 22)
  - RE: To Be Fair...... - Todd Krieger 10:44:06 04/4/21 ( 21)
    - RE: To Be Fair...... - Mel 11:14:14 04/4/21 ( 20)
      - RE: To Be Fair...... - Todd Krieger 15:19:28 04/4/21 ( 16)
        
        Nobody banned Dr. Seuss - jimbill 22:39:04 04/4/21 ( 11)
        
        +11. nt. - MWE 07:39:43 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        The Underlying Problem......... - Todd Krieger 05:54:32 04/5/21 ( 9)
        
        "....the vast majority of people have rejected racism and racist activity...." - Rick W 07:55:23 04/5/21 ( 6)
        
        Wow, Rick! You saved your post at the end! - Chris from Lafayette 09:49:55 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        RE: "....the vast majority of people have rejected racism and racist activity...." - Todd Krieger 08:54:59 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        Yep, didn't mean to start a continuing rap. nt - Rick W 09:54:37 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        RE: "....the vast majority of people have rejected racism and racist activity...." - Todd Krieger 08:36:22 04/5/21 ( 2)
        
        Ask your friends then, Todd. Hotep? Don't know anybody into that, but..... - Rick W 08:50:27 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        RE: Ask your friends then, Todd. Hotep? Don't know anybody into that, but..... - Todd Krieger 09:57:53 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        Apparently you are opposed to a certain subset of the... - MWE 07:37:58 04/5/21 ( 1)
        
        There is certainly room and need for "new wisdom"... - SE 10:18:16 04/5/21 ( 0)
        
        You shut him up. * - Mali 16:07:41 04/4/21 ( 1)
        
        Not Really..... - Todd Krieger 22:07:54 04/4/21 ( 0)
        
        By The Way...... - Todd Krieger 15:27:55 04/4/21 ( 1)
        
        +1 nt - srl1 08:35:24 04/5/21 ( 0)
      - Speaking of thought police. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:32:28 04/4/21 ( 2)
        
        Who? Perhaps those that don't like politics continually injected into a "classical" music - tinear 12:02:15 04/4/21 ( 1)
        
        I was wondering when "his wokeness" would make an appearance in this thread ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 12:49:28 04/4/21 ( 0)

RE: Do the right thing - Todd Krieger 01:22:20 04/4/21 ( 0)

"perhaps the right thing to do would get rid of this forum entirely!" - Analog Scott 19:25:50 04/3/21 ( 2)

That quote in your subject line. . . part of my vaunted irony! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:53:37 04/4/21 ( 1)
- Oh, I did not thinkyou were being serious about that - Analog Scott 16:08:52 04/4/21 ( 0)

Yeah, I just ignore this stuff. n.t - SE 19:11:24 04/3/21 ( 0)

Those that have to acknowledge to being woke... - musetap 15:37:44 04/3/21 ( 0)

RE: Do the right thing - pbarach 15:13:31 04/3/21 ( 9)

Perhaps had we lived in Handel's time - steve.ott@kctcs.edu 16:51:22 04/4/21 ( 1)
- In which case, we should probably be cancelled! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 17:49:25 04/4/21 ( 0)
RE: Do the right thing - Todd Krieger 01:18:10 04/4/21 ( 0)
Beethoven was anti-semi.... - kuma 21:44:18 04/3/21 ( 4)
- Pletnev - pbarach 05:18:01 04/4/21 ( 2)
  - Money talks... - Ivan303 08:08:14 04/4/21 ( 1)
    - Yeah, it does. Just ask Pete ("I was only doing pederast research") Townshend. nt - tinear 12:05:09 04/4/21 ( 0)
- RE: Beethoven was anti-semi.... - Todd Krieger 01:35:23 04/4/21 ( 0)
"Handel profited from the slave trade" - Chris from Lafayette 16:09:34 04/3/21 ( 0)

RE: Do the right thing - Mali 15:11:16 04/3/21 ( 0)