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Re: Business 101 I get...

Posted by Victor Khomenko on February 24, 2000 at 19:16:07:

***I couldnt help but tweak you on the VP issue after your post to Jack G earlier in the thread. And oh yes, in my postings here since the inception of the board I'm notorious for milking my job title for all its worth (hmm, in case you miss the irony in my tone its the first time I've ever mentioned it)

Not true. How do you suppose I knew it if not for your flaunting it? It was first used by you to impress the living crap out of me. Boy, were you flying high with your patronage... You know what? You damn nearly succeded. I do nderstand, though, your not wanting to recall that.

***But tell me. Why do you evade the real issue and engage in personal attacks?

I do not see any issue here, I have seen plenty of unfriendly attacks.

***Are you seriously trying to tell me and genuinely expect me to believe that a tube you sell for $100 is only covering your costs?

Joe, as I mentioned to you before, I really don't have any need to justify anything to you. I don't want you to believe anything. It is YOU who insist on your God given right to demand explanation from people who own you none. I do what I believe in my heart is right and frankly, you don't have any right of passage to judge me. You have not done anything yet to earn my trust, and to me that is important. Contrary, in fact. So for you to complain that I have been less than completely forthcoming with YOU is a bit of, ah, there it is, "intellectual dishonesty". I am inclined to be open with people I trust and respect. I have demonstrated this time and again.


***When the (apparently) only other source of the tube can somehow afford to sell the same tube for $30?

For as long as you continue your idle speculation, you shall remain answerless. You are not asking questions, you are making accusatory statements, loaded statements if you will, so please continue your lonely play alone.

***After you have announced on this very board in the past you did everything you could to corner the world supply of said tube?

I don't see any connection between this and preceeding paragraph.

***These are your words and actions Victor, not mine. Do you want me to go dig up the posts? They are there in the archive for anyone to see. So why not try to step outside your skin for a moment and see how it might look to others?

You just can't get off that judge soap box, can you? That is a problem with you, Joe. You seem to believe that you have right to judge others even in the situations about which you have no knowledge besides your general education. Sorry, but you have not demonstrated ANY familiarity with the subject yet. You have make plenty of arbitrary decisions, though. And I am not going to follow you there. Frankly, you have not demonstrated that you have the slightest idea about the costs of different products, yet you had passed many judgements. Yur best analysis was confined to the "it is just a small tube, after all" revelation. Well, dah, diamond is just a small stone.

***I repeat - I have no real problem with you running a business.

As your numerous posts indicate, you do. You also seem to have severe problem with others liking something that comes with my name attached to it. You, of course, make sure that is covered with that phony "objectivity" artificial sweet. And don't take me wrong - your irritant qualities are not all that significant for me to lose too much sleep over it. I have been very frank, sometimes too frank, with many people I don't even know, so don't try to assign this "secretive" nature to me. It is simply that you have been trying to muscle your way into something where people simply get by being good and nice and human. Sorry, no right of passage for you yet.

***Why the hell not just be forthright about it instead of asserting things that require a total suspension of disbelief in any thinking individual?

It is you, Joe, and your continuous snide unpleasantness. If you want to be liked and respected, earn it.

***I must say I find it very interesting that in your last two posts you have not denied using the replacement tube business as a profit center.

Don't be ridiculous, you know nothing about our business so please spare us your generalist analysis. Please stay with what you know.

***If you missed it that was the object of the post you responded to in the first place. Instead of personal attactks who not simply address that issue?

What is the issue, Joe? The fact that you don't like our prices? Get over it. Our prices are fair. You have my permission to go and sell anything at any price that you wish to name. No P patronizing a VP here.