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The age old agenda about so many things sounding the same

Posted by Analog Scott on December 10, 2006 at 11:26:07:
"Just what are those "beliefs?" Please specify."
Amplifiers sounding the same
CD players sounding the same
CD playback perfection
All cables sounding the same
"Tweaks" are snake oil

"Please remember, we are not the ones making claims that differences between various accurate amps are audible, that differences in wires are normally audible."
Indeed you guys are the ones making the assertion that they are not audible.

" Those who do make such claims have the burden of proof."

Really? Why is that? Why do I have any burden of proof about my subjective opinions? No, the objectivists have the burden of proof because they are the ones claiming their position is scientific. Anyone making *that* claim bears a burden of proof. I no more have a burden of proof in regards to my *opinions* about audio than I do with my opinions about what burger joint has the best burgers. I DO NOT HAVE TO PROVE MY SUBJECTIVE IMPRESSIONS OF MY AESTHETIC EXPERIENCES ARR SCIENTIFICALLY VALID.Period.
"And if certain things are proven to be audible, what objection do you have to saying so?"

Oh none. Please show me any peer reviewed published scientific research that proves amps sound the same or CD players sound the same or that CD playback is transparent in practice or that all cables sound the same. Please show me the *legitimate* science that supports the objectivists assertions on audibility.
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