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Re: Unos, Duos, Trios

Posted by Steve on November 11, 2000 at 02:28:18:

Dear Mr Walker,

An insightful post. When I was choosing Avantgardes, my choice was between Duos and Trios. Eventually I went for the Trios on the basis that I could afford the best. A friend decided to buy Uno IIs and while they don't do everything the Trios can, I have not noticed he or I having any less fun in our extended listening sessions, so its certainly something to bear in mind when performing the relative value analysis. Unos IIs are massively capable loudspeakers

As regards Uno vs. Duo vs. Trio I had the opportunity last year to compare all three at Avantgarde's studios in a single listening room, with the same electronics and the same music, everthing well warmed up and installed with both CD and Vinyl sources.

And indeed, all three speakers are very similar in nature. And all three exhibit the same basic characteristics, namely:
- uncolored
- fast
- uncompressed
- transparent
- totally effortless
- ability to throw a huge soundstage
- ability to completely disappear as sound sources
- essentially musical with no hardness, harshness or readily identifiable anomalies whatsoever

The differences between the 3 models include:

- absolute sound pressure levels vs. room size
- amount of fine detail, ambience and air recovered
- ability to develop images within the soundstage (increasingly 3 dimensional and corporeal)
- size of the soundstage
- bass weight and quality
- Finesse

2 analogies may help illustrate what I'm talking about.

The Avantgardes models work like ever increasingly powerful magnifying glasses, making subsequent views increasing clear and detailed. The first 'view' of the music is already a shock in its clarity, detail and naturalness and each move up the scale brings more of the same.

Another example I could use is the cinema. The Unos equate to regular cinema, the duos to wide screen and the Trios to 70mm IMAX.

Interesting to note: Some of the older Trios found in demo set-ups until a while ago had their speaker polarity ID rings on the removeable screwdown element of the binding post.

When we moved from the Duos to the Trios during the demo, the initial Trio sound was inferior to the Duos in a hard to define way. Bass was fine but the music lacked most of the magic of the Duos. Turned out that on re-installation of the speaker cables, the sub-woofers were connected in-phase, for perfect bass but the horns were connected according to the color codes which turned out to be out of phase. If we hadn't found the problem it would have been easy to conclude that the Trio was indeed inferior to the Duo. Reality is different. If Steve loves and prefers Duos, its most likely because he hasn't had the opportunity to hear equally well set-up Trios and not because the Trio is inferior in any respect.