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It is a very nice table

Posted by travisty (A) on September 10, 2010 at 16:07:58

In Reply to: Pioneer PL-70LII posted by jmlattu on September 10, 2010 at 10:01:27:

Among used tables available in Japan, it is one of the very nice 'not quite a "mega-table" but way better than entry level' tables.

There is a certain amount of implied trickle-down from the P3 and P10 tables Pioneer made under the Exclusive label (and this is especially apparent looking at the arms).

The PL-70LII is better-sounding than the PL-50LII level, in part due to plinth weight, in part due to better motor/power supply I think. I expect the arm is made a bit better (and it is longer than the 50-series arm) but I never opened up the arm on the PL-70LII which passed through.

It has a nice coreless motor. It has a quite decent arm. The isolation footers work OK.
If I wanted to own one of these for the rest of my life I would find/buy magnetic levitation footers to replace the existing footers. The plinth is OK but not great. One could make it better. That said, it is better designed/damped than the vast majority of it's contemporary rivals.

I think the arm works better in straight arm pipe format with high-compliance carts than the S-arm works with low compliance carts but playing with the oil-damping may yield you different results.

If I wanted one table all-in and I wanted to spend the 90-100,000 yen (1000-1100 euros) that these go for on hifido, i cannot think of a table I'd rather have (I don't have the experience with the Yamaha GT-2000 to make any kind of a judgment but I note that the motor philosophy between the two makers was similar (yamaha used a linear motor I think)).

It is a great table for the money. Pioneer made a nice family of tables.

The shipping to Poland can be made a lot cheaper by shipping it 'by sea'. I note that even if you ship by airmail, it will possibly spend a long time in Polish customs which means patience is necessary anyway. The import duties are based on what you state the value is; of course, insurance is limited by the same number too.

Disclosure: I don't currently own one of these. I had one through my system briefly. I have also had a large number of it's rivals through my system (except the Yamaha GT-2000). I still have and will keep it's bigger brother, the Exclusive P3.

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