Thanks... - kurt s - Vinyl Asylum

Thanks...

Posted by kurt s on April 21, 2007 at 18:46:49

In Reply to: Re: Just as a data point for me... posted by Fretless on April 21, 2007 at 18:10:17:

but I wished you could have heard more from the 20 to describe it. the 20 is really different from the 10, and I wanted to find out just where your perceptions of all these turntables are coming from.

I can agree with you on the 10's description. But the 20 is in a different league, and therefore so is the 30. It has a real engineered suspension/damping system that sucks vibration away and doesn't let much return (that returning part is the not-so-good part). If you felt the 20 is too sterile sounding, then I would gage that your needs for a source is more than simply hearing what's in the grooves. Maybe listening stright from the master tape with no turntable would be less enjoyable for you than having the turntable do some "processing" for you.

This is no insult, either. I like to process my sound with single ended triode amps. I think they make it sound more organic than anything push-pull, tubes or anything else.

One British reviewer (and I forgot the name of the British magazine that published it) has heard all the TT's you mentioned and thinks they've all got it wrong after he heard the SME 20. He said anyone who disliked it must not like the truth of the recording and seeks more than is there. Then he bought it.

So I was just wondering. The only TT I've heard on your list of the ones you like was the Linn. It was pretty good, but I did not know the surroundings well either to comment much more than that. I have a hard time auditioning these things in unfamiliar environments. They can all sound good to me or all bad, it's just unknown environment. The SME 10 and 20 I heard in a familiar setup at a local dealer. I've seen him so many times I know what his house sound is like and when it changes. But he only does VPI and SME.

My dad used to own an old Garrard idler TT. That was pretty good, too. It definitely had that rock thing going with it, and I don't have a clue as to why.

My experience at my home has been only with American made TT's. VPI and Teres. That's all. Teres is better than VPI for everything, IMO. I do like the inner detail and soundstaging and I just don't feel it lacking in anything else with horn speakers. With low efficiency speakers I had before, they definitely sounded *somewhat* lethargic in some ways. But until I actually get a chance for someone to put a British TT in my own system and listen, I probably will not change a thing. At this point, I'm afraid to. It sounds just right as far as I know.

Maybe, perhaps, I would buy an SME 20 if I could afford it. I think it makes it sound more like putting on a reel-to-reel master tape than anything else I've heard. There's no thinking of rhythm and pace to me when you listen to a reel-to-reel. It's just the recording and nothing more. Then send it through a SET amp and it sounds the best to me.

Again, just my opinion.

Kurt

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Topic - Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - jaybar 07:09:07 04/20/07 (18)

I'd like to think I've moved past the platter as interface? - Elmo 05:19:45 04/21/07 (0)

A problem with acrylic - Mark Kelly 19:10:06 04/20/07 (0)

If willing to dig around a bit, try the Teres Audio and Galibier websites - travisty 15:45:06 04/20/07 (0)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - Fretless 09:39:16 04/20/07 (13)

All materials do - cbrady 23:14:41 04/20/07 (0)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - kurt s 14:48:11 04/20/07 (8)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - Fretless 15:38:09 04/20/07 (7)

Just as a data point for me... - kurt s 20:21:58 04/20/07 (3)

Re: Just as a data point for me... - Fretless 18:10:17 04/21/07 (2)

Thanks... - kurt s 18:46:49 04/21/07 (1)

Re: Thanks... - Fretless 19:44:45 04/21/07 (0)

Pace and drive - violinist3 18:58:34 04/20/07 (2)

Re: Pace and drive - Fretless 16:49:35 04/21/07 (1)

Thanks - violinist3 17:16:03 04/21/07 (0)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - Tre' 10:29:42 04/20/07 (2)

Pure acrylic is a bit too dead. Acrylic/lead shot can be pretty good. nt - kurt s 14:50:16 04/20/07 (0)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - Fretless 11:21:43 04/20/07 (0)

Re: Do Acrylic Platters, as a meterial, have any type of sonic signature? - Pat S. 08:17:02 04/20/07 (0)

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