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In Reply to: Nope, wasn't me... posted by tketcham on September 17, 2006 at 10:17:10:
**I actually have been honest about some of the items I've used and stated their poor qualities. But I also try to be fair and state what's right with them or qualify that they don't work well for my particular setup.**So was I! I was being honest in my assessment of MY P2, and in stating its poor qualities, just as I was being honest in stating its good qualities! (But for some reason, you just focused on the poor qualities I stated...). But nevertheless, I never said "someone else's P2 will sound just as bad!", did I? In fact, I was VERY fair and objective in my assessment, which was the purpose of putting my post up! I was trying to find out if the problem was inherently due to the sound of the P2 or the set up. (That's why it was titled "Why does **my** Rega P2 suck?!".
After all, what do I know, this is my first experience with a Rega product? The answers I got, ranged from "Yeah, it's supposed to sound that way", to "no, its not supposed to sound that way". I kept repeating the fact that the responses I was getting were not helping me determine if it was the set up or the table (not until Matt posted good info on checking the set up). That shows that I made many efforts to find out why it sucked, and didn't conclude anything!
In fact, as I later posted, I had to find out the reason it sounded the way it did on my own, since as far as I know, no one here has ever said anything about the platter being part of the set up, or having a distinct preferred side. (And when I went to the trouble to post more honest observations about this platter being the solution to the problem, in the hopes it would help others in my situation in the future to troubleshoot their Rega setups, I was rewarded for that by having some fool immediately respond to me by claiming I'm playing "headgames" with the forum, because according to the ignorant fool, "as everyone knows", it couldn't possibly make a difference!)
**It's merely a suggestion to try and make this forum reasonably objective, for both good and not-so-good products. (There are rarely truely bad products.) That way, people coming here to get information and advice will find the best advice that we can provide. **
Define "best" advice? I read -hundreds- of posts here that in my opinion, are WRONGHEADED advice. People who just don't know what they're talking about, but have convinced themselves otherwise. I let it slide, because they have a right to their opinions, no matter how wrong I know those opinions to be. When someone is perceived as bashing the Rega for example, as I've seen, a lot of people, like you, will immediately chime in and defend the Rega. Even if you don't or have never owned one. But if a lot of people bash say, the Clever Little Clock, you would probably be whittling your bat right now and preparing to head down to the CLC-bashing. Because some things are just "okay" to bash, even if you've never owned them or heard them! That's hypocrisy at its finest, if you ask me...
So I think people should carefully consider opinions on a given product. There's NO shortage of opinions here praising the Rega, if one does research on the subject. You weigh that with the opinions against it, try to see if the poster's are coming from an advanced knowledge of audio or a place of sheer ignorance, and than make up your own mind based on what you can gather, from all sources and possibilities.
**My point, Sylvian, is that before someone posts how bad something is (this product SUCKS or some angle on the SUCKS theme), they should be pretty sure of the statements before firing it off. **
No, I was pretty sure that my P2 SUCKED. That's why I wrote that it SUCKED. I wrote that not because as you might assume, I thought it'd be nice to take some time out of my day to bash Rega, but because I wanted some help to UNsuck it. I really don't care about the companies behind the products or how they feel about what people say of their products. All I care is that I have stuff that sounds good. If not, I either make it sound good or get rid of it.
**Nothing wrong with a negative opinion of something if it deserves it, as Mosin points out, but the opinion should be based on something more than first impressions or a poor diagnosis of the problem. If someone isn't really sure of the diagnosis, don't post something that is strongly negative.**
Okay. The next time someone bashes the Clever Little Clock, or other items they have prejudices against before they have carefully considered it beyond "first impressions", or have a poor diagnosis of the problem, or have actually not HEARD the bloody thing at all, I'll expect you on their case. You can start with little Stewie here, since you seemed to have missed him the first go round:
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=general&n=438646&highlight=clever+little+clock&r=&session=
**I'm having a great day and I wish you the same. Glad to hear that your friend's setup is sounding better. And good of you to repost your findings. **
Thanks! You see, I've already forgotten that I was called a lying scammer for having done so....
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Follow Ups
- Re: Nope, wasn't me... - Sylvian 13:17:25 09/17/06 (3)
- I love it. Tom writes a few graphs, you write a novel . . . once again, - HenryH 15:13:02 09/17/06 (2)
- Re: I love it. Tom writes a few graphs, you write a novel . . . once again, - Sylvian 17:01:43 09/17/06 (1)
- Who's complaining? Great entertainment this is . . . Master Yoda. /nt\ - HenryH 04:05:13 09/18/06 (0)
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