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No, SERIOUSLY! I keep reading about how much people LOOOVE Rega turntables and how great they are. Well, Ive owned everything but a Rega before, and when I recently took on the job of setting up a Rega Planar 2 for a friend, I was quite unimpressed by the Rega P2. This is despite me having installed a Reson Reca cartridge on it (same exact body as a Goldring 1042), which cost more than the tt (the cartidge was purchased new about $400 CDN, the tt was purchased secon hand, and cost a little less than that). The sound was detailed yes, musical, NO. It reminded me of a CD player, and you don't buy tt's to sound like a CD player.For sheer musicality, the Connoisseur BD2's I had blow the Rega out of the water. Now, let me say a few words about the Thorens TD-150AB, which I have also spent a lot of time with recently, setting it up. It's got a gold Empire cartridge (approx $150, if I recall). A few years ago, I spent 6 months straight tweaking this thing, and throughout it all, it never sounded less than "unmusical". Again, the Connie blew it away (still does). I'm a lot better at tweaking now, so I managed to (finally) make the Thorens sound musical. It's not as detailed, as high rez or as "large" a soundstage as the Rega, but the point is, it is now more MUSICAL, no doubt about it.
The problem lies in the fact that the Thorens has higher resolution in timbre (whereas the Rega, its just higher resolution in general).
I've tweaked the bejeezus out of the Rega, striving to maintain its timbral qualities (its MUCH more impressive sounding now). But I could never get it to approach the Thorens in this area (if I could improve the Rega's timbre without having to pay for commercial tweaks, then it -would- blow the Thorens away).So what I'm wondering is if the stock Rega is really supposed to sound like this (weak in timbre, not very engaging musically), or if there's something wrong with this set up? I've done the whole cartridge/arm set up thing best I can, with a 2 point alignment guide (of course, I cant adjust VTA, except to raise the arm. By the looks of things using a parallel ruler, the arm VTA is either perfectly fine as it is or perhaps might need to be lowered 1 mm, if anything). Anyway, I dont see the whole character of the table changing by a 1mm adjustment even if it were possible to lower the stock RB-250.
Unless I'm simply hearing what a Rega actually sounds like, the only things I can think of that might be wrong with the deck is the spindle bearing or the tonearm bearings. But if anyone thinks that could be the case, can I get a clue on how to check the spindle and tonearm bearings, and is it even possible for a user to adjust the bearings on the RB-250?
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Topic - No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Sylvian 12:36:54 09/10/06 (61)
- Hold on. - Stale 10:40:46 09/11/06 (2)
- Re: Hold on. - Sylvian 11:23:21 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: Hold on. - Stale 15:37:38 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Petethebassman 08:24:48 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Sylvian 11:27:06 09/11/06 (0)
- What I have learned... - RGA 06:18:52 09/11/06 (0)
- Does your "new" cart maybe need to break in? - hukkfinn 06:09:45 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: Does your "new" cart maybe need to break in? - Sylvian 11:30:35 09/11/06 (0)
- The P2 is Rega's bottom of the line. Where did the BD2 fall in Connoisseur's lineup? - hukkfinn 04:28:01 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: The P2 is Rega's bottom of the line. Where did the BD2 fall in Connoisseur's lineup? - Sylvian 11:32:13 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Sylvian 23:15:23 09/10/06 (2)
- Maybe your Rega sucks because you're using an obsolete, outdated example of their bottom-of-the-line table - hukkfinn 05:47:10 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: Maybe your Rega sucks because you're using an obsolete, outdated example of their bottom-of-the-line table - Sylvian 11:33:19 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Marc Bratton 22:05:03 09/10/06 (1)
- You can easily adjust azimuth with a Rega-just requires a little.. - powermatic 22:35:37 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - John-from Seattle 22:04:16 09/10/06 (2)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - olddude55 02:42:27 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Sylvian 22:42:40 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - theophile 20:35:03 09/10/06 (0)
- As a long-time Connoisseur BD2 owner - BRab 19:23:28 09/10/06 (2)
- Re: As a long-time Connoisseur BD2 owner - Sylvian 22:50:41 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: As a long-time Connoisseur BD2 owner - JimL 22:01:37 09/10/06 (0)
- Love my new P2 - my first TT - jderdock 17:17:01 09/10/06 (1)
- Re: Love my new P2 - my first TT - Merle 17:53:28 09/10/06 (0)
- I threw mine away in frustration -- true story - Brixton77 16:45:18 09/10/06 (7)
- Re: I threw mine away in frustration -- true story - Sylvian 22:57:41 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: I threw mine away in frustration -- true story - keldasdad 18:40:58 09/10/06 (1)
- True, I just hate lousy sound. - Brixton77 21:50:10 09/12/06 (0)
- Re: Are you sure it wasn't faulty? - MattC 17:04:19 09/10/06 (3)
- Re: Are you sure it wasn't faulty? - Sylvian 22:54:22 09/10/06 (2)
- Re: Are you sure it wasn't faulty? - MattC 11:13:48 09/11/06 (1)
- Re: Are you sure it wasn't faulty? - Sylvian 08:56:41 09/12/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - keldasdad 15:54:25 09/10/06 (1)
- Regas require suitable support to sound good. What did you place it on? - hukkfinn 15:21:44 09/10/06 (1)
- Re: Regas require suitable support to sound good. What did you place it on? - Sylvian 23:01:28 09/10/06 (0)
- All turntables suck......Well.........except for mine. It's great. I pity ..... - artemus 14:54:32 09/10/06 (1)
- oh for gods sake! - OMalley 14:03:34 09/10/06 (4)
- Re: oh for gods sake! - Sylvian 23:09:29 09/10/06 (3)
- sure, right - OMalley 04:29:26 09/11/06 (2)
- Re: sure, right - Sylvian 11:42:33 09/11/06 (1)
- throw it out - OMalley 13:23:16 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Stale 13:59:21 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Aquarium 13:53:24 09/10/06 (5)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Sylvian 23:19:51 09/10/06 (0)
- yes indeed - OMalley 14:08:49 09/10/06 (3)
- Re: yes indeed - olddude55 14:36:57 09/10/06 (2)
- Re: yes indeed - JoeLip 21:23:55 09/10/06 (1)
- That vertical guide... - olddude55 02:39:33 09/11/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Fred J 13:05:09 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - mosin 12:52:16 09/10/06 (11)
- I need to be careful here, my last Rega rant was pulled.... - tubesforever 23:21:17 09/10/06 (0)
- This opinion coming to you courtesy of a user who has never owned a Rega tonearm - hukkfinn 15:13:00 09/10/06 (2)
- I hear that Rega's major motor upgrade... - JoeLip 21:11:28 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: This opinion coming to you courtesy of a user who has never owned a Rega tonearm - mosin 15:35:53 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - twisty 13:05:05 09/10/06 (6)
- Rega bashing seems to be in vogue. - Rick W 14:15:23 09/10/06 (0)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - Fred J 13:20:26 09/10/06 (4)
- Re: No seriously, why does my Rega SUCK? - M3Man 14:12:45 09/10/06 (3)
- I know, I know...raises hand... - mosin 14:53:27 09/10/06 (2)
- Re: I know, I know...raises hand... - Sylvian 23:31:00 09/10/06 (0)
- Its ok if you convert it to battery power and do the power remotely...... - tubesforever 23:23:04 09/10/06 (0)