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In Reply to: Re: Be honest with yourself: buying used ANYTHING is a crapshoot * posted by .Guy on September 8, 2006 at 22:06:41:
Very true, if you're Buying Blind, however with used records
once you become familiar with the local used record dealers you'll soon learn how expert / ethical they are at assessing their stock and fair they are with their grading/pricing.I've found 2 different dealers in my area, as well as 2 online sources who are impeccable in their grading and square on their pricing and with these dealers over a 3 yr period.
BTW I found the aforementioned superb online sources, right here in the Archive, which in just about every facet of this Hobby has proved to be of great value.
I've sourced approx. 1,500 used LP's from the aforementioned dealers and have yet to find one that wasn't at least as good as they'd graded it.
It's not all that difficult for any of us to learn how to evaluate
used records with a fair degree of proficiency if one does some simple research on what to look for here in the Asylum Archive, and with another year or less of experience so we can get damn good at spotting Groove damage, so by that point the risk is actually significantly less than buying new records which may have various warp or other issues.In addition to learning what you're looking at, cultivating some expertise in cleaning allows one to get incredible bargains as it's not all that difficult to look through or around the crud, spindle marks, etc. and other indicators often tell the story in themselves, certain types of scratches as well as scuffing are also irrelevant
for the most part.I wish I had a fraction of the $$ I've dropped for new Cd's and even SACD, often ones billed as big time digital re-masters only
to find them audibly comprised by the Copy protection or useless for my PC, perceptibly compressed to having the very life compressed out of them, or they were nice and clean and dynamic etc. but the re-mastering engineer obviously didn't understand and or couldn't relate to the artist.So personally I find used Vinyl is by far the safest by a wide margin, as long as I'm either doing the selecting or dealing with a
reliable/trusted source.OTOH, like just about anything else if you're buying from unknown online sources, particularly on Sleaze Bay and like judging the Vinyl don't bother educating yourself on the danger signs indicative of dirt bag or Moronic sellers or in buying locally and you happen to be lazy and or somewhat of a Cretin, then buying used will frequently finding ending up being a F#@Ked Chicken.
noting that you're still unregistered and from reading your post's and responses to others posts, you've demonstrated an obvious penchant for confrontation, to outright trolls, as well as being entirely disinterested in actually learning anything, so I wouldn't exactly be shocked to shit, if it turned out that you are intellectually, character and or emotionally challenged to the degree that perhaps you might consider avoiding buying used ?
Regards FredJ
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Follow Ups
- Being a Jerk complicates everything. - Fred J 01:35:20 09/09/06 (19)
- Fred, come away from there - OMalley 05:21:48 09/09/06 (18)
- You mean the Tull where the picture looks like it was taken last week? ;) (nt) - Bry 12:31:31 09/09/06 (1)
- yeah! [snicker] [nt] - OMalley 15:30:16 09/09/06 (0)
- Re: Fred, come away from there - Fred J 06:05:33 09/09/06 (15)
- yes and no Obi-wan - OMalley 06:30:40 09/09/06 (14)
- Clumping... - tketcham 08:03:26 09/09/06 (13)
- Re: Clumping... - blake 17:46:24 09/09/06 (2)
- Re: Clumping... - tketcham 22:24:19 09/09/06 (1)
- Re: Clumping... - blake 23:08:18 09/09/06 (0)
- AQ brush wet clumping: my solution - ParloFax 09:08:09 09/09/06 (0)
- sounds like that might work - OMalley 08:18:09 09/09/06 (8)
- RCM's suck... - tketcham 08:35:34 09/09/06 (7)
- Re: RCM's suck... - blake 17:34:53 09/09/06 (1)
- Good points. That Electrolux of mine is going on 23 years old and still runs like a champ. nm - tketcham 22:27:29 09/09/06 (0)
- i am so cheap - OMalley 09:28:59 09/09/06 (4)
- So was I until I wasted $75 on Orbitrac stuff. Went from cheap to chump... - tketcham 10:55:27 09/09/06 (3)
- it is a rip off - OMalley 11:14:08 09/09/06 (2)
- Now I feel better. A $75 plastic brush case. '-) nm - tketcham 11:33:18 09/09/06 (1)
- very trendy - OMalley 15:29:08 09/09/06 (0)