I used Olly's cleaner...

Posted by EdAInWestOC (A) on September 3, 2020 at 12:51:14

In Reply to: OCRVC compared with ultrasonic? posted by M3 lover on September 3, 2020 at 06:41:14:

It was pretty good but I would not say its a game changer.

Keep in mind what the different cleaning systems are designed to do.

Ultrasonic: This is the best cleaning system but its not an everyday cleaning system. Ultrasonic cleaning is appropriate for deep cleaning LPs and recovering LPs to a pristine or near pristine condition. It is a restoration system.

With the requirements of the cleaning tank fluid and how it needs to be changed, Ultrasonic cleaning is not practical for everyday cleaning of LPs.

Vacuum Cleaning: Vacuum cleaning machines allow the user to apply and remove a variety of cleaning solutions. The vacuum removal of the fluids leaves a very clean surface but it is not as clean as an Ultrasonic cleaning. Vacuum cleaning is appropriate for everyday cleaning and cleaning just prior to playing.

There a variety of vacuum cleaning machines with the VPI machine a sort of default standard for the industry. The Keith Monks machine with the string cleaning approach is another type of vacuum machine that provides a very good cleaning and it is reported to be quiet compared to the VPI machines.

The Nitty Gritty type of vacuum machine is an inexpensive way to acquire a vacuum cleaning machine. The upward facing vacuum cleaning slot is handy for cleaning of cleaning brushes as well as the intended use of vacuuming cleaning fluid.

There are a number of other machines on the market but for serious LP cleaning a vacuum cleaning machine is required to maintain your LPs and an ultrasonic machine is highly recommended for restoring troublesome LPs.

All LPs, even if they are maintained with a vacuum cleaning machine, will eventually require a deep cleaning that can remove tough clicks and pops. Many vinylphiles assume the clicks and pops are a necessary evil and a part of vinyl playback. This is not true.

A good ultrasonic cleaning can usually restore a noisy LP back to a quiet background free of most of the clicks and pops that many assumed were part of the hobby. The deep dirt that is present in many LPs can be removed by a good ultrasonic cleaning. It can restore noisy LPs to a quieter state and in many cases can restore them to a pristine state.

There are many vacuum and ultrasonic machines on the market. When you shop for a vacuum machine you should inquire whether the machine turns your dirty LP for you, whether it can turn it in both directions, and how easy it is to change the pick up.

The pickup on a vacuum machine is the most important item in its design. If it is easy to change, remove and clean, then you have a machine that can be maintained and kept in good working order. You have to remember that the vacuum pickup is the most important thing in the vacuum machine design.

The pickup can get contaminated and dirt on the pickup can spread dirt to subsequent LPs. You have to maintain the vacuum machine's pickup and ensure it is very clean. The idea is to clean LPs, not to spread dirt around.

When looking at ultrasonic machines you should consider the size of the water bath, how often the fluid must be changed, how the fluid gets changed, how the machine rotates the LP in the fluid bath, how many LPs/records can be cleaned in a single cycle and what kind of cleaning regimen is recommended by the maker of the ultrasonic machine.

Ultrasonic machines can be found starting below $1000 USD and available for much more than $1000. The cost is usually associated with many of the things I mentioned above. Be careful when choosing an ultrasonic machine. Ask about all of the things listed above and then listen to the sales pitch.

Buying an ultrasonic cleaning machine is a very good idea but you can spend a lot of money on a machine that could sit dormant most of the time. Remember, an ultrasonic machine is a restoration device and you will not be using it on a daily basis like a vacuum machine.

Shop carefully and ask people who may have experience with the particular machine before you spend any money on the device.

Good Luck,
Ed
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Topic - OCRVC compared with ultrasonic? - M3 lover 06:41:14 09/03/20 (38)

ultrasonic! - hifitommy 20:59:23 09/04/20 (22)

If one already has a VPI 16.5.... - Ivan303 05:55:15 09/05/20 (13)

RE: If one already has a VPI 16.5.... - Sondek 06:57:05 09/06/20 (3)

Your Kirmuss IS a rinse machine, no? - Ivan303 09:21:46 09/06/20 (2)

RE: Your Kirmuss IS a rinse machine, no? - Sondek 09:30:29 09/06/20 (1)

rinse - hifitommy 10:55:47 09/06/20 (0)

I use the vacuum machine for drying after the ultrasonic bath. - alaskahiatt 11:40:08 09/05/20 (8)

Those air bubbles in the lines will KILL a patient.... - Ivan303 12:24:09 09/05/20 (7)

Maybe someone will chime in about the pressure a diamond needle - alaskahiatt 16:14:12 09/05/20 (5)

Try leaving a record in the bath for an hour... - Ivan303 18:53:56 09/05/20 (4)

Time will certainly be important. So far I have read that the ultrasonic - alaskahiatt 23:23:16 09/05/20 (2)

RE: Time will certainly be important. So far I have read that the ultrasonic - Sondek 07:25:53 09/06/20 (1)

Absolutely, and the water temperature would become the danger to the record. nt - alaskahiatt 11:56:38 09/06/20 (0)

RE: Try leaving a record in the bath for an hour... - rivervalley817 19:12:14 09/05/20 (0)

Haha. Amazing how one's profession can determine perception. - alaskahiatt 13:04:55 09/05/20 (0)

RE: ultrasonic! - volunteer 05:35:41 09/05/20 (7)

RE: ultrasonic! - hifitommy 09:26:31 09/05/20 (3)

+1 !!!! nt - alaskahiatt 11:28:51 09/05/20 (0)

RE: ultrasonic! - volunteer 11:01:24 09/05/20 (1)

RE: ultrasonic! - Sondek 07:42:23 09/06/20 (0)

Why not try it? - Ivan303 06:11:15 09/05/20 (2)

RE: Why not try it? - volunteer 06:40:17 09/05/20 (1)

I saw the guy clean a record at RMAF... - Ivan303 07:23:42 09/05/20 (0)

Search for "Rushton's formula" - Ross 18:58:52 09/03/20 (1)

Here is the great Rushton ultrasonic article from Positive Feedback - alaskahiatt 23:13:37 09/03/20 (0)

Thanks all so far - M3 lover 14:25:11 09/03/20 (3)

Did Olly say anything about Napisan? :^). nt - alaskahiatt 15:23:55 09/03/20 (2)

RE: Did Olly say anything about Napisan? :^). nt - M3 lover 08:48:20 09/04/20 (1)

Napisan is pink and so is OCRVC. Always wondered. Olly still - alaskahiatt 16:43:25 09/04/20 (0)

I used Olly's cleaner... - EdAInWestOC 12:51:14 09/03/20 (2)

RE: I used Olly's cleaner... - dee eye why 08:22:55 09/04/20 (0)

Brought an US cleaner months ago and still haven't used. - volunteer 17:31:40 09/03/20 (0)

RE: OCRVC compared with ultrasonic? - Sondek 08:21:01 09/03/20 (5)

Here's the link for the origin of the name. The actual ingredients - alaskahiatt 12:09:21 09/03/20 (2)

RE: Here's the link for the origin of the name. The actual ingredients - Sondek 20:29:22 09/03/20 (0)

Here's a link that might get you in touch with Olly. - alaskahiatt 12:12:57 09/03/20 (0)

RE: OCRVC compared with ultrasonic? - PAR 10:10:51 09/03/20 (1)

RE: OCRVC compared with ultrasonic? - Sondek 20:27:46 09/03/20 (0)

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I used Olly's cleaner... - EdAInWestOC 12:51:14 09/03/20 (2)

RE: I used Olly's cleaner... - dee eye why 08:22:55 09/04/20 (0)

Brought an US cleaner months ago and still haven't used. - volunteer 17:31:40 09/03/20 (0)

I used Olly's cleaner...

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