I think you missed the point...

Comparing a Ferrari to a Yugo is not a valid comparison if you want some useful information. In the same sense comparing a cartridge with a conical stylus and aluminum csntilever is not very useful unless you want to know that a better stylus and cantilever yields increased high frequency resolution.

I suppose that would be information to someone but its one of those moot points that can be extracted from paying attention to the performance of cartridges over a period of time.

Any cartridge can yield increased performance if the stylus and cantilever is upgraded. Unless the stylus and cantilever is chosen to hide a weakness in the cartridge at hand, the improvement can be readily heard.

Admittedly I was a bit scratchy yesterday (dealing with an insurance company) but the basic complaint holds. Why compare a basic cartridge with a cheap stylus and cantilever to a model with a better stylus and cantilever?

I'm certain that the first observation is that the cartridge with the better stylus and cantilever has improved resolution. Its an observation that has been made countless times before and the reason that an Ortofon 2m Black costs more than its lower priced members of the same line. The stylus on the Black is a more advanced profile and its ability to extract detail from a groove is greater than its lower priced cousins.

That was the reason I referenced people who have performed retipp jobs and replaced their stylii with the SAS alternative. Those selections improve the resolution of the cartridge at hand. Its the same cartridge with a styus and cantilever that is more capable of tracing the groove.

The sole interesting thing brought up by this comparison is that the DL-103 performs as well as it does with a humble stylus and cantilever. It speaks well for a design that has been talked about ad naseum. And I'm a big supporter of the 103 family.

Ed
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Topic - Denon DL-103, DL-301MkII comparisons - gkargreen 08:42:59 03/21/12 (14)

RE: Denon DL-103, DL-301MkII comparisons - gkargreen 17:47:35 03/21/12 (2)

You will get more bang for your buck from the 103... - EdAInWestOC 18:13:18 03/22/12 (0)

The 301 body is plastic, not metal. /nt\ - Opus 104 20:14:15 03/21/12 (0)

You can't compare cartridges with different type stylii... - EdAInWestOC 17:45:39 03/21/12 (6)

Why would you compare things and expect them to sound the same? Usually one makes .... - viridian 22:13:17 03/21/12 (5)

I think you missed the point... - EdAInWestOC 04:07:57 03/22/12 (4)

I would respectfully disagree.................. - viridian 07:51:46 03/22/12 (3)

Not a damm thing wrong witha Yugo... - EdAInWestOC 18:08:40 03/22/12 (0)

RE: I would respectfully disagree.................. - blake 13:21:12 03/22/12 (1)

I also own a DL-103R... - EdAInWestOC 18:07:16 03/22/12 (0)

RE: Denon DL-103, DL-301MkII comparisons - AudioSoul 12:54:33 03/21/12 (1)

Have you tried the Denon 304? - amandarae 14:51:29 03/21/12 (0)

I have them both. The 301 excels on top. Just about everywhere else - Opus 104 09:44:29 03/21/12 (0)

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I think you missed the point... - EdAInWestOC 04:07:57 03/22/12 (4)

I would respectfully disagree.................. - viridian 07:51:46 03/22/12 (3)

Not a damm thing wrong witha Yugo... - EdAInWestOC 18:08:40 03/22/12 (0)

RE: I would respectfully disagree.................. - blake 13:21:12 03/22/12 (1)

I also own a DL-103R... - EdAInWestOC 18:07:16 03/22/12 (0)

I think you missed the point...

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