I find the tradeoff to be worth the bother.

Posted by 3+4=5 on January 23, 2017 at 11:06:55

In Reply to: RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations posted by fantja on January 19, 2017 at 16:03:32:

It is true there may be a trade off when plugging an amplifier into a conditioner (of any sort).
However any 'blanket statement' about the choice is of little use to anyone except the most gullible.

The trade off may be in constricted dynamics with (but not always)
or a leaner sound with. Again but not always)
To far better clarity with than without. (true but not always)

The CHOICE is in the listeners ears, and not some pundits ideology.
Since it is 'free' to try if one owns a conditioner. A few hours FUN playing around finding out which way one prefers for oneself is a 'no brainer'.
Now it may be you tried it over and over with dozens of amplifier, power cord and conditioner combinations over years of trial and error..
Still does not make it any sort of rule, other than your personal opinion.
(though do have to say others have also expressed this notion, along with as many saying what I am, that it has to be tested personally, wall or conditioner)

For my own use.. I find I prefer the amplifier to be powered from my Furman REF20i conditioner. I have gone back to the wall to see if my opinion has changed... but I always go back to the amp plugged into the conditioner. It just sounds better to me.
My reason is the music has a bit more clarity. And no loss of dynamics. The one slight loss is in warmth, the sound is very slightly leaner.
Others may find from the wall is better.
But it is a personal listening choice. And no way can be some guru telling others.

And to folks who can't hear any difference? Don't worry, be happy. But when you upgrade just about anything, check the difference again. You will sooner or later find you CAN hear a difference.

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Topic - Power Conditioner Recomendations - RIQUE 21:20:14 01/18/17 (18)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - fantja 16:03:32 01/19/17 (1)

I find the tradeoff to be worth the bother. - 3+4=5 11:06:55 01/23/17 (0)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Sondek 08:31:22 01/19/17 (9)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - RIQUE 08:56:32 01/19/17 (5)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Sondek 09:01:38 01/19/17 (4)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - RIQUE 09:04:08 01/19/17 (3)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Sondek 09:10:30 01/19/17 (2)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - ahendler 19:16:44 01/19/17 (1)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Sondek 18:55:08 01/20/17 (0)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - RIQUE 08:41:53 01/19/17 (2)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Sondek 08:57:58 01/19/17 (1)

RE: Power Conditioner Recomendations - Des 02:56:15 01/20/17 (0)

What price range? (nt) - Jack G 04:33:33 01/19/17 (5)

RE: What price range? (nt) - RIQUE 04:47:31 01/19/17 (4)

I bought used Ferman REF20i for $1,400 ($3500 new) and a PS Audio P600 used for $1,000. - 3+4=5 13:28:05 01/20/17 (3)

RE: I bought used Ferman REF20i for $1,400 ($3500 new) and a PS Audio P600 used for $1,000. - RIQUE 17:43:23 01/20/17 (2)

Gee, $4,000 new ,and demo at $800. Ahh you really do not want it. Tell ME where i can grab it? - 3+4=5 16:40:35 01/21/17 (1)

RE: Gee, $4,000 new ,and demo at $800. Ahh you really do not want it. Tell ME where i can grab it? - RIQUE 18:33:43 01/21/17 (0)

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I find the tradeoff to be worth the bother. - 3+4=5 11:06:55 01/23/17 (0)

I find the tradeoff to be worth the bother.

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