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RE: OK I gotta ask. Why no more 6p3se / 6n3ce for sale other than on Ebay?

Lots of hearsay going on here....
The 6P3S is only a rough lower voltage equivalent of a 6L6, more like an updated 6V6.

6P3S-E is not really the same valve, idem the latest 5881 stuff from saratov.
All a bit comparing apples to oranges.

"According to them, the post Gorby era tubes were inferior. They said that during the glasnost era that tight military control was shifted to the civilian sector, ..They also claimed that tubes during that time were considered old technology, and they closed and sold for scrap...."

"Many (most?) of the 1970s and earlier production tubes were not made at Saratov. They were a slightly different tube. Were the tubes you compared Saratov made?

The Foton and other 60s-70s vintage tubes are getting hard to find and pricey. ......

I'm not saying the Fotons weren't superior, but the Saratov made tubes are the tubes most people have been speaking quite highly of.
And the current production is Saratov made as well."

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