No Diamond on Bottom = Counterfeit or Bootleg...

Posted by Interstage Tranny (A) on July 12, 2012 at 08:56:53

In Reply to: Yes. posted by Alpha Al on July 12, 2012 at 06:59:46:

The counterfitting seems to have begun in the late '70s to early '80s with Siemens being the culprit. Ironically, those Siemens tubes have become collectible. Why ? I do not know; as Siemens is not anywhere near a favorite on my list.

Apparently, since the mid '90s, EI has done it again. Allegedly, these sound good ? Who cares ? Don't you realize this company has beat the system ? Don't you think their quality control is uncaring as they continue to be involved in counterfeit products ? Will their bootleg tubes last decades as the real Telees do ?

A few years ago, at a crowded swap meet, a guy came over with a bag full of white sleeves of five tubes; with white boxed supposed Telees that were actually painted red on their tops to simulate the special hand selected for lo-noise ECC83 types. Because the silkscreen looked so new and the diamond stamped bottom was diffuse looking, I passed on the high priced lots. The guy was also a bit shady. But, the key factor here is that the diamonds and numbers on the bottom were attempted by the counterfitters. So, be warned. If the silkscreen looks too new, be wary. If you cannot read the number(s) in the diamond bottom, do not spend your hard earned cash.

Will the real Telee stand up and be heard....(LOL)

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Topic - Do All Telefunken 12AX7 Tubes Have the Diamond on the Bottom? - The Dill 06:03:57 07/12/12 (27)

Photo of guts should tell you. - FenderLover 06:49:34 07/16/12 (0)

How do they sound? Like Telefunken 12AX7 tubes? - Jay Buridan 09:34:14 07/13/12 (0)

Here's a question. - R Browne 19:02:02 07/12/12 (0)

Yes. - Alpha Al 06:59:46 07/12/12 (22)

RE: Not absolutely true. - tango4@telia.com 11:32:02 07/12/12 (17)

RE: Not absolutely true. - tango4@telia.com 05:31:44 07/13/12 (2)

RE: Not absolutely true. - tango4@telia.com 05:33:15 07/13/12 (1)

RE: Not absolutely true. - tango4@telia.com 05:34:31 07/13/12 (0)

RE: Not absolutely true. - Alpha Al 12:34:18 07/12/12 (13)

RE: Not absolutely true. - Frihed89 15:11:47 07/12/12 (0)

Not absolutely true ? - Interstage Tranny 13:17:56 07/12/12 (11)

RE: Not absolutely true ? - The Dill 13:44:06 07/12/12 (10)

RE: Not absolutely true ? - Tre' 14:09:58 07/12/12 (9)

The code (factory) you circled looks to be Chelmsford... - DeKay 17:11:18 07/12/12 (3)

RE: The code (factory) you circled looks to be Chelmsford... - Tre' 18:30:32 07/12/12 (1)

Yup, I see right side up now. NT - DeKay 20:55:00 07/12/12 (0)

RE: The code (factory) you circled looks to be Chelmsford... - Joe Appierto 17:26:33 07/12/12 (0)

Relabelled and sold by Telef ? - Interstage Tranny 14:52:28 07/12/12 (4)

RE: Relabelled and sold by Telef ? - Tre' 15:14:25 07/12/12 (3)

Relabelled and sold by Telef ? - Interstage Tranny 08:00:37 07/13/12 (2)

RE: Relabelled and sold by Telef ? - Tre' 09:32:56 07/13/12 (1)

Of course we agree... - Interstage Tranny 10:29:06 07/13/12 (0)

RE: Yes. - Tre' 10:35:04 07/12/12 (0)

No Diamond on Bottom = Counterfeit or Bootleg... - Interstage Tranny 08:56:53 07/12/12 (0)

RE: Yes. - Nunki 08:54:11 07/12/12 (0)

I have the EI and the Telefunken and . . - John PA 08:53:26 07/12/12 (0)

RE: Do All Telefunken 12AX7 Tubes Have the Diamond on the Bottom? - JNS 06:53:05 07/12/12 (0)

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No Diamond on Bottom = Counterfeit or Bootleg... - Interstage Tranny 08:56:53 07/12/12 (0)

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