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RE: Dickie and B&W

Well, I did a pretty good job guessing that Vivid had ties to B&W. I've been listening to B&W only since the early-mid 1990s and I liked them - Matrix 805, CDM2SE,(never liked the 1SE or the replacement NT) and 302 on the standmount side and 801, 802 for floorstanders.

It was 2001 or so when an 805 owner put me onto one of those rectangle boxes and comparing directly A/B against the 805 of that year(2001). The plain boring box(with tweeter inside the box) trounced them handily that I moved off my B&W purchase.

With B&W it is never "right" and that might be a reason why dealers love the sound - repeat business with people buying expensive lipsticks to put on the pig. Then they realize that Roseanne Barr will never be Audrey Hepburn and eventually they sell their B&Ws.

As for the designers - I don't know. Reviewers seem to help make them into big names but then I go back and listen to the products and scratch my head.

I have nothing against Laurence Dickie because I have not heard enough of his designs but I didn't care for the Nautilus - the Vivids have done nothing for me - the less said about those atrocious Devialet speakers the better. I think they're pretty cool speakers and I was excited to hear them - grrr. I am not surprised they are kitty-corner to the Bose and B&O stores here in Hong Kong - it's like GQ stereo equipment all in one section of the big shopping mall here. IFC Hong Kong. Devialet had to move to a different floor - the Bose competition was too great!


I read their (Vivid) website - it's all interesting technobabble - I love Star Trek and all but I am not really interested in how the sausage is made but how it tastes. In the 1990s they advertised the hell out of the tweeter on top and "kevlar" and it's all nice conversation pieces. Kind of like reading about Mercedes and how great they are until you drive them and realize how piss-poor they're made in terms of reliability.


I get an uneasy Rube Goldberg feeling when a very complex speaker or amplifier is selling that complexity as a marketing tool. Don't listen to the thing whatever you do - just look at these awesome pictures of the tweeter cutaway and the bulletproof Kevlar (see it's stiff) and the Diamond tweeter (nothing harder than a diamond and diamonds are "expensive" - see you are getting "value" for your money because we are selling you diamonds and kevlar (tough). No one bothered to ask if it actually sounded any bloody good). Especially when I go to a shop selling it and it sounds a lot worse in direct A/B comparisons than the simple Rectangle box with a manual that is printed from an inkjet with a staple in the corner.

That's when I realized that while I like my women slim and sexy, I like my speakers fat and ugly.


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