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RE: Those darn measurements !

Well, maybe you are right and maybe not. I have a 300B amp (JJ322) that has huge Double "C" core output transformers...like the Meishu signature and it doesn't sound at all syrupy or "carmel" colored. And why then do I hear something simliar with other amps on those speakers? Your hypothesis doesn't hold too much water, IMO. All the more reason to try it at home if possible.

I don't have a favorite powerful SS amp...

What does playing a speaker at 105db have to do with sound quality? Says a lot about where you are coming from soundwise...Classical music, btw, is the hardest test of a system, bar none. I can also promise you that my Odeons can do 105db with far less strain and far more impact. What does the loudness have to do with colorations? I will tell you, it only exaggerates them. The more the drivers have to move and the more the cabinet resonates the worse it gets. At 105db, you won't even see the woofers on my speakers move because the horn is doing all the work. Linearity...its a bitch.

Maybe the REAL problem is what Stereophile found out that AN speakers are not nearly as sensitive as they claim to be and 8 watts from Meishu is not enough. That would make a lot of sense.

Can't comment on the Meishu vs. Empress+M3...you could be right. I know that the TNT reviewer preferred the Ayon Crossfire (orginal MKI) to his M3+Quest monos. If Peter Q. has trouble designing with the 300B then why does he have so many amps with it?

I do not believe the 300B is an inferior tube to the others you mentioned. It is a very linear tube. It has to be used correctly and this it is probably less colored than other tubes...that's physics.

"The 219IA is better than the Meishu IMO for rock - I'll give the Meishu the win on the gentle Eva Cassidy music but not for rock"

Could be but it is probably speaker dependent. BTW. I found the LM219 to be too colored, which is why I bought the Wall monos and later the Crossfire III. It was ok and good for the money.

"You aren't getting perfection at these lower price points you just don't get it all - so AN compromises by doling out a darker chocolatey and thicker sound which is wonderful on vocals and ambiance cues but not going to have the biggest treble sparkle. "

A Meishu Silver Phono is not a cheap amp. It costs more than my Ayon I think and a lot more than my JJ322, which is about a $6K amp and doesn't sound at all chocolatey. The Ayon is light years away from chocolatey. Read the review on TNT from Geoff Husband...it tells the story nicely.

What about the very expensive AN amps with the 300B, starting with the Conquest Silver signature (about 20K), P4 balanced ($35K) and Kegon ($95K)?? You going to tell me that a Jinro sounds better than the Kegon?

"But Peter will say his amps are connecting the dots and provide proper note to note flow which may be but other amps have more splash in the treble"

I don't know any good SETs that have splashy treble. Sounds like an excuse for poor extension of his transformers.

Whatever, the Meishu has been in the lineup of AN for nearly ever and it is something that Peter Q. clearly supports and is often considered to the sweet spot in terms of price/performance in the AN line. Maybe it sucks but if so, why has it not been upgraded significantly in all this time? Your opinion, notwithstanding of course. Maybe you should write to Peter and tell him that the Meishu, in your opinion is damaging his companies reputation?


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