Not completely different - ain't this fun?

Posted by bartc (A) on January 2, 2009 at 16:52:27

In Reply to: Your situation is clearly different posted by E-Stat on January 2, 2009 at 15:40:54:

What we're all fighting with EQ is both the characteristics of the speakers AND the room nodes. Just depends on which is your main emphasis.

Obviously some of my original and remaining problems aren't simply the repro characteristics on the freq spectrum of the sub or mains. Some of them must be room issues in the bass quadrant, and Richard's general postulation of about 3-4 characteristic freq problems for most folks in the sub range is really the room issue generalized.

That suckout at 110 Hz in my room is undoubtedly a room issue remaining, though I haven't tested to see if it improves outside of my chosen seating position.

In some ways I've been fortunate with my room, which isn't technically even a classic rectangle (due to open hall system it feeds into on one side, 2 levels of height, half wall, etc.). It appears from some room calculators that my seating position, my reverse placement (I have my speakers on the short axis across from me), room dimensions overall, actually aren't too bad compared to many standard rectangular situations. And in practice, I'd say it's workable so far using acoustical tricks and working within limited placement. So I'm not concentrating in the direction you are at this point.

I just want to hear the initial pluck of a bass mated to the follow on twang of the strings, the resonance of the wooden box, and the decay as realisticaly as possible. Same for percussion, with which I'm highly familiar. A drum doesn't simply THUMP. And it doesn't hurt to hear the human voice with its depth correctly protrayed either!

Ah well, the drive to perfection will drive you nuts, and in my impoverished case, nuts all the way to the poorhouse... LOL

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Topic - EQ and subs - preliminary results - bartc 07:30:57 01/02/09 (25)

RE: EQ and subs - preliminary results - JimL 12:06:56 01/03/09 (0)

RE: EQ and subs - preliminary results - Julien43 19:59:12 01/02/09 (9)

1 millisecond delay from A/D conversion in Behringer equalizer - Richard BassNut Greene 13:45:48 01/04/09 (7)

Audibility of a 1 ms delay - David Aiken 14:18:15 01/04/09 (6)

Irrelevant for bass signals -- most bass energy already bounces off walls, floor and ceiling - Richard BassNut Greene 08:42:47 01/05/09 (5)

Have to reread the Master Handbook - bartc 18:22:40 01/05/09 (0)

Sorry, relevantâ€¦ - David Aiken 12:17:11 01/05/09 (3)

I once shot a relevant in my pajamas â€¦ - Richard BassNut Greene 08:38:05 01/06/09 (2)

I hope you missed whatever else was also in your pajamas â€¦ - David Aiken 12:32:51 01/06/09 (1)

"And you keep missing the point " -- you have no point ! - Richard BassNut Greene 17:14:13 01/06/09 (0)

Thanks, Julien - bartc 07:08:38 01/03/09 (0)

Agreed - E-Stat 10:23:23 01/02/09 (5)

Not 100% clear on what you - bartc 10:56:39 01/02/09 (4)

Moved it up to 100 hz - E-Stat 13:09:50 01/02/09 (3)

Interesting approach - bartc 15:20:08 01/02/09 (2)

Your situation is clearly different - E-Stat 15:40:54 01/02/09 (1)

Not completely different - ain't this fun? - bartc 16:52:27 01/02/09 (0)

Also credit worthy - Craiger56 07:57:22 01/02/09 (1)

Yes, but - bartc 08:14:02 01/02/09 (0)

"You can often get better results with EQ with a cheap sub than with an expensive sub without EQ" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:55:17 01/02/09 (5)

"Cheap" is a relative term, when it ain't fightin' words! LOL - bartc 08:11:09 01/02/09 (4)

"my el cheapo KLH 120W 10" ported sub is about as low as they go." - Richard BassNut Greene 08:53:38 01/02/09 (3)

I meant low as in cost! - bartc 09:45:11 01/02/09 (2)

"I really wouldn't want another KLH in my room as my wife would go bananas" - Richard BassNut Greene 13:46:21 01/02/09 (1)

My wife would crack up at that suggestion - bartc 15:22:45 01/02/09 (0)

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