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In Reply to: "You can often get better results with EQ with a cheap sub than with an expensive sub without EQ" posted by Richard BassNut Greene on January 2, 2009 at 07:55:17:
Richard,
I'm laughing about your concept (held by most inmates here it seems) and mine of "cheap". As another inmate once put it, he dubbed me the "cost IS an object" guy. I'll take the compliment. Half the fun for a guy with champagne ears and a lite beer budget is proving that the cost benefit curve goes much lower than many believe....
Anyway, my el cheapo KLH 120W 10" ported sub is about as low as they go. But it does put out appreciable sound down to 20 Hz and from 25Hz that I can hear, and the SPL meter confirms. It picks up sharply about about 28-29 Hz and definitely first peaks in the early 30s. So while its port may be another issue I haven't played with yet, it does the SPL trick well. It just doesn't do articulation well. I don't hear the dreaded chuffing.
As I've said, I'm quite sure I can do better for subs, once I get to the $500-1000 level. Hell, if you believe some of the reviews of Hsu, Outlaw, Onix, a Dayton kit, etc., I can do better as low as $300-500 than I've got currently. I was attracted for years to the VRS-1, which was $1500 and can be had for about $1000, but I suspect that it's now superceded in quality for less by some of the newer models from other manufacturers. It did mate very very well with VR1s, was surprisingly compact and looked great, sigh...
What had me buffaloed was the bewildering array of claims and disputes over config, and features, and sizes, etc. related to subs at any cost, including DIYs. All of which were NOT usefully auditionable in showrooms even were I able to locate them (and you usually can't). Buying on spec and paying the cost of shipping back and forth seemed not just daunting, but counterproductive.
So your interim step of the EQ made a lot of sense, and as I credit you fully, it was right! We'll see how far this goes for benefit now, while I continue to research and mull over better subs.
It would be easy to pass this off as my being just damned lucky. But I really do spend an inordinate amount of time researching and contemplating every move, due to budget constraints and pure orneriness, so I've made very few bad moves in my purchases so far. Most of my tweaks and purchases work very well and even better together. Until I hit the lottery... then watch out!
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Follow Ups
- "Cheap" is a relative term, when it ain't fightin' words! LOL - bartc 08:11:09 01/02/09 (4)
- "my el cheapo KLH 120W 10" ported sub is about as low as they go." - Richard BassNut Greene 08:53:38 01/02/09 (3)
- I meant low as in cost! - bartc 09:45:11 01/02/09 (2)
- "I really wouldn't want another KLH in my room as my wife would go bananas" - Richard BassNut Greene 13:46:21 01/02/09 (1)
- My wife would crack up at that suggestion - bartc 15:22:45 01/02/09 (0)
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