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In Reply to: I'm already thinking along those lines. posted by olddude55 on March 29, 2007 at 17:34:12:
It's interesting, because there are so many similarities to Aerosmith, who is one of my absolute least favorite acts ever, though even I can hear a tune or two in there somewhere. There wasn't a rivalry, for the most part, and I don't think there ever really has been, yet you could construct one if you wanted to. Oh, and my enjoyment of the Dolls is not based on their being unknown & therefore cool, as opposed to massively popular & therefore uncool, or some other such nonsense.One interesting link here, though, is Bebe Buell, who dated Johnny Thunders, had kids with Steven Tyler, and raised them with Todd Rundgren.
Who I'm also not a fan of, and whose name I might well look at, in a production capacity, as bringing in a sensibility I'd be more likely to dislike than like. However, while I would agree in a general sense that the knob-twiddling on Too Much Too Soon probably works better than that on the first rec, I would not heap any scorn on Rundgren for his work on the first rec. Actually, if anything, I think he did a pretty good job. Might there have been a better choice? I don't know. A more interesting choice? Perhaps John Cale or David Bowie, or someone else who had some experience with people trying to get the sorts of sounds guys like Thunders & Sylvain were interested getting. On the Kirshner show, Thunders is playing a Vox teardrop through an Orange amp, an unusual combination. The MC5 had used Orange...so had Black Sabbath, though, among others. But the MC5 were the ones back in 1966 having to talk engineers into letting them capture tones that sounded like noise to most people. Their early singles, included on the great Big Bang anthology, give a better example of this than the live & crappy-sounding Kick Out The Jams, or most of their later records. The Stooges had done this sort of thing; of course, others had to, but not quite with the same mindset. But Rundgren hadn't worked with bands like the Stooges, and his resume shows that he'd worked primarily with acts that were far more commercial. Plenty of damn good acts, but not a lot that, like the Dolls, would later be considered influential among what were for many years bands that were considered far more obscure & underground, than mainstream and/or popular.
Also interesting is to cherry-pick a few Stones songs from roughly the same period, say Goat's Head Soup up through Some Girls, and play some of them alongside some of these other records, especially the first David Jo rec, and Thunders' So Alone. Along with moments from the Stooges' Raw Power, a Saints track or two, and the Flamin' Groovies. Heck, that'd make a dandy of a comp. Maybe I'll try to get in touch with ya...
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- Re: I'm already thinking along those lines. - J 18:08:42 03/29/07 (1)
- Whaddya know? - olddude55 18:18:08 03/29/07 (0)
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