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Hold on just a second there...

>So some people make bad deals and get themselves fucked; it doesn't justify me stealing from the people who fucked them.

Correct, but this is not stealing we're discussing, it's copyright infringement. Sordidman may be using situational ethics here, which doesn't help, but it doesn't inflame the debate the way the terms 'stealing' and 'theft' do.


>It might justify the fuckee stealing from them but not me.

So stealing is okay if it's the person who signed the bad deal? I've been taken to task in this thread because someone thinks I'm trying to say that two wrongs equal a right, which is not what I'm trying to say at all, because it's simply not true. But it's okay for you to think this?


>You say the music industry steals from consumers. Well they never stole anything from me. I give them money and they give me a recording. Simple deal.

Well, then it would seem that you did not read the link I provided way earlier in this thread to the piece in the Consumerist where the person who did give money for recordings received files in return that they could not use. Just because you haven't been victimized by this sort of thing, doesn't mean that others haven't.

>"Big picture" my fat Irish ass. You're just spouting a bunch of bullshit rhetoric

No, I don't agree with him completely, but that's not true. Using words like 'stealing' in a discussion of copyright infringement is spouting a bunch of rhetoric--similar to what Mark's doing, though I give him a bit of a pass due to his status as a working professional. Sordid & I can attest to the idea of a big picture, although I'll limit it to my estimation of the credibility of the RIAA's side in the discussion. But I can tell you from personal firsthand experience that one doesn't have to be the one who signs a bad deal to be f*cked by copyright holders in their dealings with artists who create the work that the copyrights are held on.

Sounds like that's not exactly a position you can relate to, so perhaps you might want to consider cooling it with yr own overheated rhetoric.

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