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RE: You answered your own post, "She's sweet." Cobain? Not so much, eh? nt

Posted by RGA (R) on June 27, 2021 at 01:57:17

In Reply to: You answered your own post, "She's sweet." Cobain? Not so much, eh? nt posted by tinear on June 26, 2021 at 09:44:47:

That's a point - but my point is we can't be using the external stuff like this. Ty Cobb was a horrible racist jerk and a great baseball player - lots of great baseball players were also kind hearted soles.

Kurt Cobain has edgy messaging and he wasn't sweet.
Billie Eilish is sweet but her music is still edgy messaging.

I think you have to take the art as it is and leave the persona off stage out of it.

I mean this seems to me to be a Grunge Kind of song lyrically and visually. The only difference is that Billie isn't SCREAMING into the microphone at the top of her lungs but this is actually more "creepy" "suicidal" by not singing like that.

I mean lyrically, visually she is not some "I like big butts or I kissed a girl and I liked it" pop singer.

Sample lyrics from "Bury a Friend"

"Say it, spit it out, what is it exactly?
You're payin'?
Is the amount cleanin' you out
Am I satisfactory?
Today, I'm thinkin' about
The things that are deadly
The way I'm drinkin' you down
Like I wanna drown, like I wanna end me

Step on the glass, staple your tongue (Ahh)
Bury a friend, try to wake up (Ahh-ha)
Cannibal class, killin' the son (Ahh)
Bury a friend, I wanna end me

I wanna end me
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna end me
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna-

What do you want from me?
Why don't you run from me?
What are you wondering?
What do you know?
Why aren't you scared of me?
Why do you care for me?
When we all fall asleep, where do we go?

Listen...

Keep you in the dark, what had you expected?
Me to make you my art
And make you a star and get you connected?
I'll meet you in the park
I'll be calm and collected
But we knew right from the start
That you'd fall apart 'cause I'm too expensive
Your talk'll be somethin' that shouldn't be said out loud
Honestly, I thought that I would be dead by now (Wow)
Callin' security, keepin' my head held down
Bury the hatchet or bury your friend right now

For the debt I owe, gotta sell my soul
'Cause I can't say no, no, I can't say no
Then my limbs all froze and my eyes won't close
And I can't say no, I can't say no...

Couple the lyrics to the visuals and it's something I'd expect from Goth death metal. People have dark feelings that don't come out. Note: Most neighbours of serial killers are surprised and shocked because he was "such a nice guy."

In the above post, I noted that many artists are combining the visual arts with music so it's a "complete package" kind of thing. It's not like the old Nirvanna days of dudes on a stage playing a song. More artists today make the visual arts integral to their music.

This video for example, in combination with the lyrics, isn't exactly mainstream "I kissed a girl and I liked it" pop.

I mean this is a clear homage to The Doors and "People Are Strange" musically not lyrically.

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHC9tYz8ik   (Open in New Window)

Edits: 06/27/21 06/27/21

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