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>>> "The problem?" really this is "he" problem?>>>

>>You think it's *not* a problem? I think it's a terminal problem! A grave problem...... The entertainment is trying to pass faked music as real. That's not a problem??>>

Todd you talk about things being taken out of context. Certainly you understand the huge difference between saying something is "the" problem compared to saying something is "a" problem. Is it "a" problem? Depends on the circumstance. If it is a concert I payed to go see then yes it is a problem. If it is the national anthem at the superbowl then no, it is not a problem. Is it "the" problem? No, there is no one singular problem in music today. There are many problems of varying degrees.

>>> Either you think he exaggerated the number or you don't think he exaggerated the number. Which is it. I think he pulled it out of his ass and it is way off.>>>

>> A fair opinion....... You might be right..... But I think trying to split hairs over the details digresses to the fact it's a terminal problem. That's my point.>>

How is it splitting hairs? It is IMO an outrageous claim.

>>>>From me personally, what I find disappointing is the militant attitude from those either defending or denying the practice of faking performance.......>>>>

>>> And who here is actually doing that?>>>

>>You think you're not actually doing that?>>

Not even close. I am saying the number claimed at 95% is ridiculous and completely made up. You do understand that there is a substantial world of possibilities between 95% and 0% do you not? I personally cited three examples of lip syncing that I personally witnessed. So do tell me how am I either denying or defending the practice of faking a performance?

>>> Smells like a burning straw mane to me.>>>

>> So what is the reality, from your perspective? I'm open eyes and ears. Thank you.>>

The reality is that it has happened since the beginning of recorded music and sometimes it is an act of fraud and sometimes it has simply been a benign thing that some programs prefer when having live acts. It's nothing new and it is not nearly as common as the claim of 95%. "Most" rock/pop artists really do play their music live when they perform in concert. TV appearances are more a function of what the show wants than what the artist wants. IMO that is the reality.

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Topic - LSO to 'fake it' for Olympics Opening Ceremony - FezCo 11:41:05 06/04/12 (32)

RE: LSO to 'fake it' for Olympics Opening Ceremony - dvb 21:35:01 06/11/12 (0)

RE: LSO to 'fake it' for Olympics Opening Ceremony - Thornhill 12:27:19 06/04/12 (1)

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Forget Vanilli- 95% of All Pop-Rock-Techo-Etc is Lip Sync/Played - Mike Porper 12:18:33 06/04/12 (28)

You are just makin this stuff up - Analog Scott 04:06:47 06/07/12 (25)

Yep - David Smith 20:02:16 06/07/12 (0)

I Really Wish I Were - Mike Porper 08:45:01 06/07/12 (23)

Running and playing the violin. - J.R. 11:20:12 06/09/12 (6)

OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Mike Porper 08:19:21 06/12/12 (5)

RE: OK - Starting To Get Tired of This - Analog Scott 22:39:06 06/12/12 (3)

Thick As A Brick - Mike Porper 08:05:27 06/13/12 (2)

Sarcasm is not a super power. - J.R. 09:08:59 06/13/12 (1)

So True - Mike Porper 09:39:49 06/13/12 (0)

The Eastern European music I like is tradition oriented. - J.R. 09:03:45 06/12/12 (0)

RE: I Really Wish I Were - Analog Scott 14:06:54 06/07/12 (15)

People Hear What They See - Mike Porper 14:26:49 06/07/12 (14)

RE: People Hear What They See - Analog Scott 05:36:09 06/08/12 (13)

You've Actually Supported My Point - Mike Porper 14:08:44 06/08/12 (12)

Then your "point" and your assertions are two very different things - Analog Scott 09:28:31 06/09/12 (11)

CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 22:18:18 06/11/12 (10)

Since when is 95% a distortion of 95%? - Analog Scott 22:35:12 06/12/12 (4)

When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Todd Krieger 17:26:10 06/13/12 (2)

RE: When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Analog Scott 20:58:13 06/13/12 (1)

Fine - Whatever - Time To Move On [nt] - Mike Porper 08:29:15 06/14/12 (0)

115% - Mike Porper 08:07:29 06/13/12 (0)

RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/12/12 (4)

RE: CUT........................... - Todd Krieger 17:34:39 06/13/12 (1)

RE: CUT........................... - David Smith 18:02:43 06/13/12 (0)

Switch between live singing and lip-synching during the performance of a single song - Mike Porper 09:52:23 06/13/12 (1)

So can we agree that you are changing your claim from "95%" to "some"? - David Smith 11:09:25 06/13/12 (0)

Way to go Mike Porper! - Timbo in Oz 00:04:56 06/07/12 (0)

I'm With You Here.............. - Todd Krieger 20:47:40 06/06/12 (0)

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RE: When the Context Is Changed.............................. - Analog Scott 20:58:13 06/13/12 (1)

Fine - Whatever - Time To Move On [nt] - Mike Porper 08:29:15 06/14/12 (0)

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