In Reply to: Interesting - I never met Jonathan Berger posted by Chris from Lafayette on April 22, 2012 at 13:50:50:
Good call on the chorus from "Der Rose Pilgerfahrt." Parts of it could be right out of the German Requiem, couldn't they.
It doesn't surprise me that Brahms would have been influenced by Schumann, and, perhaps, in the brief span left to him after they met, Schumann by Brahms. It doesn't surprise me either that Brahms would be aped, given his stature, but I don't know of another composer I'd mistake for him, because I don't see how they could imitate his genius. As in what they said about Sussmayer, that Mozart taught him so well that he mastered Mozart's style, but not his genius.
Even when a genius intentionally imitates another genius, e.g., when Beethoven and Mozart imitate Bach, the result is in my experience subtly different.
I'm guessing that Tchaikovsky's difficulty with German form had to do not with his training, but with the fact that he didn't have much exposure to German works in his youth. It seems to be a problem with intuition, not a matter of training. After all, he appreciated neither Bach nor Brahms, and yet a lot of people without his or for that matter any formal musical training do. But, who knows? I've noticed that many people get more pleasure out of relatively unstructured late romantic works than I do, including people who clearly don't hear what I do in the baroque and classical repertoire. It may be that we have areas of musical blindness, even geniuses like Tchaikovsky and Brahms (who didn't like Tchaikovsky's music any more than Tchaikovsky liked his).
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- RE: Interesting - I never met Jonathan Berger - josh358 14:41:35 05/18/12 (0)