In Reply to: Great Orchestras posted by molechaser on February 10, 2007 at 11:42:12:
This thread gives me heart to continue reading these forums. The Top Orchestras can be rated but pedantically, no.VPO, BPO, Amsterdam, and Cleveland are all at the top. The rest of the top 5 or 10 are debatable. If you read my posts, you know that I love all of them, esp. rooting for the Cleveland under Szell/Maazel, as Todd K points out below. He's not sure, but I think they sounded wonderful with Dohnanyi even, if not the same and certainly they played more melodiously than in the Szell days. And you know that my view is that BPO is becoming a non German orchestra these days. Also, Philharmonia and LSO were very good as were all of the big 5 American orchestras.
One can judge from recordings and FM and live broadcasts (own conductor in own hall), but not as well as if M. Lucky's method is followed. Only heard The Cleveland Orchestra and Der Bayerischen Festspielhaus Orkester, not Rundfunks in the live setting in their own place. And the Czech Phil in Cleveland, as well as Cleveland under Maazel in Kansas City.
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- Todd Krieger is right, M. Lucky is idealistic and Clark loves his locals... - docw 14:21:10 02/12/07 (15)
- Clark has heard "his locals" nearly every week for several decades. Clark has not... - clarkjohnsen 12:07:46 02/13/07 (14)
- taking pokes? - docw 12:40:27 02/13/07 (13)
- "...top band in the land nowadays." Don't put words into my mouth please! nt - clarkjohnsen 12:55:38 02/13/07 (12)
- shouldn't the last part of this go outside? nt - docw 14:20:18 02/14/07 (0)
- Forget my comment re Clark Johnsen - docw 13:03:36 02/13/07 (10)
- No problem, none at all. It's just that... - clarkjohnsen 13:35:52 02/13/07 (9)
- I know about those guys,... - docw 14:16:31 02/13/07 (8)
- Yeah, those guys. But: Mono?! Ya gotta be kidding! Mono's worse than radio! - clarkjohnsen 09:29:23 02/14/07 (7)
- The kind of hypocritical misrepresentation I expect from you. - Rick W 10:16:30 02/14/07 (6)
- "You *are* a FULL ass." Lyrics copyright Notional Music. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:43:26 02/14/07 (5)
- Boundless hypocrisy from a bounder. - Rick W 11:31:31 02/14/07 (4)
- "You have never heard my music." Ah, but I've heard your lyrics. - clarkjohnsen 12:15:13 02/14/07 (3)
- Thanks for the re-print. I don't think I should take sole credit though. - Rick W 12:41:38 02/14/07 (2)
- I know: let's form the Society for Notional Musicians - markrohr 15:12:41 02/14/07 (1)
- Hmm. The amount of $$ I'm making is......notional. Can I still be a member? nt - Rick W 15:32:49 02/14/07 (0)