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Todd Krieger is right, M. Lucky is idealistic and Clark loves his locals...

This thread gives me heart to continue reading these forums. The Top Orchestras can be rated but pedantically, no.

VPO, BPO, Amsterdam, and Cleveland are all at the top. The rest of the top 5 or 10 are debatable. If you read my posts, you know that I love all of them, esp. rooting for the Cleveland under Szell/Maazel, as Todd K points out below. He's not sure, but I think they sounded wonderful with Dohnanyi even, if not the same and certainly they played more melodiously than in the Szell days. And you know that my view is that BPO is becoming a non German orchestra these days. Also, Philharmonia and LSO were very good as were all of the big 5 American orchestras.

One can judge from recordings and FM and live broadcasts (own conductor in own hall), but not as well as if M. Lucky's method is followed. Only heard The Cleveland Orchestra and Der Bayerischen Festspielhaus Orkester, not Rundfunks in the live setting in their own place. And the Czech Phil in Cleveland, as well as Cleveland under Maazel in Kansas City.


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