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In Reply to: You want to cancel HIP, right? : ) I'm in awe of your confidence and certainty, but.... posted by jdaniel@jps.net on April 16, 2021 at 12:36:08:
. . . cancel culture and pointing out the absurdities and historical blunders of the HIP movement.Strange, but I suspect that I've listened to at least as many HIP recordings as you have. Maybe I got an earlier start! ;-)
As for knowing the "HIP Universe", I wouldn't know whether I'm better versed on HIPdom than you are. One thing I do suspect however is that I'm better versed on the original sources which supposedly underlie the HIP movement. I still have in my library such works as CPE Bach's Essay on the True Art of Playing Keyboard Instruments, Daniel Gottlob Turk's Klavierschule oder Anweisung zum Klavierspielen fur Lehrer und Lernende mit kritischen Anmerkungen, Quantz's Versuch einer Anweisung die Flote traversiere zu spielen, and others. I'm thinking that that's what drives you and other HIP nut-cases crazy: not only do I abhor certain aspects of HIP, but I hate it intelligently, with a knowledge of the very sources with which HIP academicians and performers justify their perversities.
Furthermore, you've been trying to frame this as all-or-nothing, black/white thinking on my part, but in fact I've carefully selected the aspects of HIP which I object to AND I've provided the historical evidence as to why I object. You can't stand the fact that this disagreement can't be reduced to a question of simple likes and dislikes, and you lack the knowledge yourself to argue from actual evidence.
[Edited to restore the post after the umlauts in the original post crashed our server. They're now left out.]
Edits: 04/16/21 04/17/21
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Follow Ups
- Funny that you can't seem to make the distinction between. . . - Chris from Lafayette 16:29:04 04/16/21 (2)
- "Carefully selected the aspects of HIP that I object to." (Excuse me as I move out of the way of the pendulum! - jdaniel@jps.net 16:44:28 04/16/21 (1)
- Urtext scores, correct performance of embellishments. . . - Chris from Lafayette 17:01:35 04/16/21 (0)