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In Reply to: Wow! Here's a reviewer who really knows what the story is with HIP! posted by Chris from Lafayette on April 13, 2021 at 02:18:23:
HIP is both presumptuous in it's mind set of "autenticity" and simply inferior in it's musical qualities. Forte Pianos are inferior to pianos. End of story. And the differences are far more vast when we hear them live. With a recording you can crank up the volume to compensate to the shear lack of dynamics of a forte piano. In person they simply sound like broken children's pianos. I have a few "HIP" performances that I enjoy. Those hand full of recordings are the exception not the rule.Just shows that some artists can make the something good using inferior tools.
Edits: 04/14/21
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- I could not agree more with him - Analog Scott 17:48:17 04/14/21 (28)
- It's a good thing Monteverdi, Bach, Mozart and Beethoven didn't know that! nt - oldmkvi 08:51:14 04/15/21 (17)
- What makes you think they didn't know that? - Analog Scott 13:24:15 04/15/21 (4)
- Well, history is history, but I'm curious... - SE 04:50:18 04/16/21 (3)
- "I have read that Beethoven wanted more from the keyboard instruments of his time" - Chris from Lafayette 11:42:16 04/16/21 (0)
- Histoy is sketchy at best and rarely tells us what people actually thought - Analog Scott 07:11:15 04/16/21 (1)
- Thanks for the reply. n/t - SE 12:08:51 04/16/21 (0)
- That very point was addressed (at least with respect to Bach and Beethoven). . . - Chris from Lafayette 10:08:56 04/15/21 (0)
- Yes, but the quickest way to getting a spot on the Sunday morning news shows is to reduce a complex, diverse - jdaniel@jps.net 09:04:05 04/15/21 (10)
- On my worst days, I feel like we are living in the age of Anti-Enlightenment... - SE 05:01:00 04/16/21 (9)
- Oh - you mean like with "cancel culture"? There's a thread about that further below! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:46:28 04/16/21 (4)
- You want to cancel HIP, right? : ) I'm in awe of your confidence and certainty, but.... - jdaniel@jps.net 12:36:08 04/16/21 (3)
- Funny that you can't seem to make the distinction between. . . - Chris from Lafayette 16:29:04 04/16/21 (2)
- "Carefully selected the aspects of HIP that I object to." (Excuse me as I move out of the way of the pendulum! - jdaniel@jps.net 16:44:28 04/16/21 (1)
- Urtext scores, correct performance of embellishments. . . - Chris from Lafayette 17:01:35 04/16/21 (0)
- "They're coming for your drums!!" Sounds familiar, doesn't it? : ) - jdaniel@jps.net 08:31:27 04/16/21 (3)
- OK, jdaniel - that WAS clever! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:45:01 04/16/21 (2)
- Have to admit, it still makes me laugh. HIP News: Chris Reports, Chris Decides. : ) nt - jdaniel@jps.net 12:37:54 04/16/21 (1)
- (That was less clever) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 16:29:52 04/16/21 (0)
- After everything in this long thread, I think we need a HIP replacement!... - SE 21:58:30 04/14/21 (9)
- RE: You rang? - B. Scarpia 07:27:55 04/15/21 (0)
- Better yet, a Marais Moment! - jdaniel@jps.net 06:21:30 04/15/21 (5)
- So I watched that video, and what did I see and hear? - Chris from Lafayette 12:07:14 04/15/21 (4)
- may I humbly offer this from the maestro of the gamba... - oldvinyl 20:12:23 04/15/21 (0)
- I never said *all* HIP performances use vibrato, that's your binary thing going on again. Sorry you found it - jdaniel@jps.net 12:34:28 04/15/21 (2)
- No reason for you to put words in my mouth - Chris from Lafayette 12:59:29 04/15/21 (1)
- Well, I just bought that whole Marais Ricercar set. Wouldn't have stumbled across it had you not posted. : ) - jdaniel@jps.net 18:04:34 04/15/21 (0)
- RE: After everything in this long thread, I think we need a HIP replacement!... - Analog Scott 00:28:39 04/15/21 (0)
- RE: After everything in this long thread, I think we need a HIP replacement!... - rivervalley817 22:12:24 04/14/21 (0)