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In Reply to: Wow! Here's a reviewer who really knows what the story is with HIP! posted by Chris from Lafayette on April 13, 2021 at 02:18:23:
Chris Salocks' comment that "The trouble is that, even if Beethoven did know this type of sound, there's little evidence that he was pleased with it!" NEGATES everything he has to say, as that perspective is EXACTLY the same presumption that infuses HIP itself.A couple of comments to temper the discourse. Original instruments (even modern versions in emulation) make sense, both objectively and artistically. If there is one thing that CAN be "proven" it is the physical characteristics and sound of old metal and wood constructions -- this is not voodoo, it's fact. Choosing to use them or not is a contemporary performing decision. Insisting on "right or wrong" is purely subjective.
I like the "salt perspective," as I encounter it every day. Folks who always add salt to their food think anything prepared without it is painfully bland. Folks who don't use salt think anything WITH salt is over-salted. Neither is wrong, neither is right.
As far as the "toy piano" comments regarding fortepianos, I will let the recordings of Paul Badura-Skoda stand in opposition.
Finally, with so many world class artists presenting HIP stylings, it is foolish to dismiss these interpretive decisions as simply "academic." The writer is a bit too self-absorbed and distracted by the politics to render a useful review -- a fact he admits up front when he states that he isn't sympathetic with HIP. MWI should not have given this review to him -- I guess that makes it an editorial decision, and not a music review at all.
Edits: 04/13/21 04/13/21
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Follow Ups
- The Reviewer doesn't know how to think... - SE 04:48:53 04/13/21 (18)
- You'll have to elaborate on your first sentence - Chris from Lafayette 11:01:33 04/13/21 (11)
- early wind instruments sucked when blown - DrChaos 16:50:44 04/14/21 (0)
- No matter... - SE 14:35:30 04/13/21 (9)
- You...you mean...there's a middle ground? Not allowed! nt - jdaniel@jps.net 21:04:28 04/13/21 (7)
- That's right, jdaniel - for those who listen with docile contentedness, anything goes [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 02:02:57 04/14/21 (6)
- Listen to what with docile contentedness? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 07:44:58 04/14/21 (5)
- To HIP (You lose the thread or something?) [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:33:23 04/14/21 (4)
- Which HIP? It's 70 years old with many branches, hybrids, styles, etc. from orthodox to cafeteria Catholic - jdaniel@jps.net 11:54:33 04/14/21 (3)
- Read the thread - I think I've defined my terms - Chris from Lafayette 17:06:58 04/14/21 (2)
- First of all, "toy pianos" would be too modern for, say, "Marais," right? (Not all HIP employs Toy Pianos.) - jdaniel@jps.net 20:20:42 04/14/21 (1)
- Maybe you're having a hallucination that we've established that? - Chris from Lafayette 01:17:37 04/15/21 (0)
- Very good, SE! - I guess it just depends on what one considers as. . . - Chris from Lafayette 18:46:52 04/13/21 (0)
- Hear, hear! nt - tinear 10:03:09 04/13/21 (0)
- +1 While not much of a fan of the fortepiano - Ivan303 08:01:36 04/13/21 (4)
- Same. As for Harpsichords, there are ugly-sounding ones and very beautiful-sounding ones. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 08:35:26 04/13/21 (3)
- Sure, I know about the clangsichord and the plucksichord - but which is which? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 13:22:50 04/13/21 (2)
- So you're saying that they all sound bad? nt - jdaniel@jps.net 07:49:07 04/14/21 (1)
- You're right that some sound better than others, but. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:37:42 04/14/21 (0)
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