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In Reply to: No, your argument is flawed posted by Feanor on May 3, 2012 at 09:03:08:
People can play with the legalities all day butif "Porsche is a physical object which, if stolen, is no long available for use by the original owner."
But wait the original owner is Porsche - not the guy Porsche sells the car too.
So let's go back to Porsche and stale the car from them. What motivation would Porsche have to continue making cars if people stole their cars? None - they'd stop.
The argument that you're making is that Porsche sells one car to one guy who then let's 100 people drive the car - the comparison to CD is not the same because cars fall apart and sooner or later someone has to come back to Porsche.
The CD is a physical object as well. It's being copyable I don't see as the issue. Because at the heart of the thing is motivation. If you steal the CD's the motivation to go into business selling them will vanish - which in a very real way makes it "no longer available to the original owner" - at least the "next one" may not be available.
I agree with the notion that if a person would not buy it anyway and the original CD or movie is not physically stolen then it isn't "theft" in the same way as run of the mill regular theft.
As a teacher it is utterly painful at the things we can't photocopy or show to classes. The stupid thing is that some movies/TV we used to show actually generated interest and sales because you have a class of 25 all watching a show they've never seen now they love it run to money (I mean mummy) and get her to buy the series - that would not have happened had it not been shown to the class. And if it had not been shown to the class they never would have seen it and of course never would have bought it - so I've always thought that was dumb copyright. They should treat that as free advertising. (Example - in Mainland China I showed Dr. Who to classes - no copyright in China (or they don't care). All the kids come from millionaire and billionaire parents. Many of whom bought not just the season but 4 seasons of the TV show. Times maybe 1/4 of the class - they tell their friends = more sales.
I get photocopying readers and textbooks - they want the schools to buy those - fair enough. You could make the case for CD being advertising for the band as well.
A guy downloaded Dexter and gave me the series to watch - I loved it - bought all 5 seasons on DVD. If I didn't see the rip=off copy and as a non HBO subscriber that's five sales they never would have gotten - but here's the thing - I've told 4 friends about it - all 4 of those friends took my advice - bought the first season - they loved it all of them have purchased all 5 seasons.
The question then is - who did they tell? How far do the dominoes spread - and all those sales would have been ZERO if it had not been for a guy who downloaded the series.
I get the arguments against but like the drug trade - they're not going to stop - and perhaps look at the tertiary sales they get by letting people spread the word.
This is why the industry didn't care about people copying from the radio - mediocre quality - people will pay for quality if it's reasonable. Make the playback better - offer feature - do something to get the downloaders to buy the discs. If you buy the CD you get a 1 in 1000 chance to get Shania Twain's underwear - the internet geeks who invented the internet will be out buying in droves :-)
Just like putting the Golden Key in the chocolate bar - you have the chance to meet the artist. I mean there are people buying Tim Horton's coffee (yuck) because they can roll up the rim to win a free doughnut.
Edits: 05/05/12
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