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In Reply to: The Root of the Frustration..... And a Suggestion...... posted by Todd Krieger on September 21, 2008 at 19:30:42:
I believe that polarity discussions about individual records are close to useless. Someone who cares about playing music with correct polarity can ascertain the correct polarity in an instant and fix it as quickly as tweaking the volume control. Or perhaps we should have people post what SPLs they play individual recordings at?
There is a value to more general discussions about polarity, such as how to recognize it, identifying recordings that make it particularly obvious, identifying speakers and/or other system components that are more or less revealing as to polarity, components that support easy polarity reversal, etc. It is also useful in the appropriate forums to have technical discussions on how polarity can be automatically recognized, technical standards for measurement devices and recording components, etc.
Tony Lauck
"Perception, inference and authority are the valid sources of knowledge" - P.R. Sarkar
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Diana Krall CD - georgelouis 22:46:46 09/20/08 (163)
- Can you please tell us your experience with Amanda McBroom recordings? - Enophile 13:43:26 09/22/08 (3)
- RE: Can you please tell us your experience with Amanda McBroom recordings? - Todd Krieger 17:46:05 09/22/08 (2)
- Audio demo chestnuts... - mkuller 11:01:45 09/23/08 (1)
- RE: Audio demo chestnuts... - Brian Cheney 11:18:16 09/23/08 (0)
- How can you have another silly polarity thread with 100 posts without Clark? - mikel 09:58:22 09/22/08 (1)
- Polarity + Dianna Krall = 200 pointless threads minimum. - Paul_A 12:21:13 09/22/08 (0)
- Did you measure the Lissajous trace - WithTarragon 07:02:49 09/22/08 (9)
- You do that how...? - rick_m 07:11:43 09/24/08 (7)
- You can tell by using a computer audio editor - Tony Lauck 16:06:05 09/24/08 (3)
- RE: You can tell by using a computer audio editor - rick_m 19:44:35 09/24/08 (2)
- Automatic Detection / Manipulation of Polarity - Tony Lauck 20:14:32 09/24/08 (1)
- RE: Automatic Detection / Manipulation of Polarity - rick_m 21:45:41 09/24/08 (0)
- CD "A" vs CD "B" - WithTarragon 09:26:56 09/24/08 (2)
- RE: CD "A" vs CD "B" - rick_m 10:04:45 09/24/08 (1)
- RE: CD "A" vs CD "B" - WithTarragon 14:39:09 09/24/08 (0)
- Good point! - jmlpartners 08:46:39 09/22/08 (0)
- Dianna Krapp is everything that is wrong about audiophiles today. - Shane from AUS 20:26:53 09/21/08 (73)
- if you listened to her as music rather than demo material - hifitommy 20:15:00 09/22/08 (6)
- RE: if you listened to her as music rather than demo material - Squonk 11:57:19 09/23/08 (1)
- as usual - hifitommy 18:13:23 09/23/08 (0)
- I had the special treat - bjh 04:30:58 09/23/08 (0)
- I've been trying to figure who listens to Diana Krall as demo material? - Teresa 21:51:52 09/22/08 (2)
- i listen to DK for the MUSIC - hifitommy 06:14:56 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: I've been trying to figure who listens to Diana Krall as demo material? - Todd Krieger 23:34:35 09/22/08 (0)
- The problem with "audiophile approved" music... - AbeCollins 17:26:23 09/22/08 (3)
- Then let's see how it... - mkuller 13:43:40 09/23/08 (2)
- RE: Then let's see how it... - AbeCollins 16:16:45 09/23/08 (1)
- Actually, back in the old days... - mkuller 16:36:36 09/23/08 (0)
- Shane, you ignorant slut! - bjh 12:38:32 09/22/08 (1)
- well spoken - Shane from AUS 16:45:33 09/22/08 (0)
- Although I do not prefer DK - Presto 10:52:00 09/22/08 (0)
- Actually, you are what's wrong... - mkuller 09:55:50 09/22/08 (1)
- I agree completely................... - lenw 16:19:14 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: Many modern jazz musicians have a good ear for imitation.... - Matts_ 09:53:38 09/22/08 (0)
- This kind of nonsense gives audiophiles a bad name - lancelot 09:40:29 09/22/08 (4)
- b/s and here is why - Shane from AUS 16:54:45 09/22/08 (3)
- superiority - mls-stl 19:57:25 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: b/s and here is why - CSF 17:54:31 09/22/08 (1)
- RE: b/s and here is why - Shane from AUS 18:15:47 09/22/08 (0)
- The one universal audio truth is......... - Rodney Gold 09:29:18 09/22/08 (0)
- Loved your "Diana Krapp" name -- she is the most overrated singer in the history of jazz, IMHO - Richard BassNut Greene 08:08:15 09/22/08 (1)
- Yeah, my Doc switched me from Valium to DK... (nt) - Presto 10:55:35 09/22/08 (0)
- Durrrrrrr... - Squonk 08:06:05 09/22/08 (2)
- feel better now? - Shane from AUS 17:04:24 09/22/08 (0)
- You'd better be careful.... - Deaf Ear 09:35:08 09/22/08 (0)
- I'd like to buy you a drink, Shane! (nt) - Deaf Ear 06:59:47 09/22/08 (0)
- How So?? - Todd Krieger 23:19:58 09/21/08 (6)
- Absolutely - Shane from AUS 00:12:54 09/22/08 (5)
- Music lover? - Presto 11:00:07 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: Absolutely - Todd Krieger 02:39:33 09/22/08 (0)
- What does that make me - smart845 00:50:50 09/22/08 (2)
- I have a Patricia Barber LP - Shane from AUS 02:48:07 09/22/08 (1)
- RE: I have a Patricia Barber LP - thetubeguy1954 06:52:17 09/22/08 (0)
- you must be kidding - troporobo 22:02:55 09/21/08 (35)
- NO - Shane from AUS 00:01:21 09/22/08 (34)
- Sound Quality? Diana Krall? I didn't know she made any audiophile recordings? - Teresa 05:41:10 09/22/08 (27)
- Thank you for this! - JimK 09:23:44 09/24/08 (0)
- Little jazz , no classical and no LPs or SACDs... - mkuller 16:45:59 09/23/08 (0)
- And here I thought I was a real audiophile... - mkuller 11:07:56 09/23/08 (1)
- So you own NO audiophile recordings at all? Surely you must have bought one or two if even by accident. - Teresa 14:35:23 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: Sound Quality? Diana Krall? I didn't know she made any audiophile recordings? - Ozzy 09:05:03 09/22/08 (4)
- So you actually believe on Planet Earth there are actually people who listen to sound instead of music? - Teresa 03:11:05 09/23/08 (3)
- Yes - you! Why are you throwing all your CDs away again? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:28:30 09/24/08 (2)
- As a matter of fact I am listening to a pre-recorded cassette at this very moment. - Teresa 16:10:32 09/24/08 (1)
- RE: As a matter of fact I am listening to a pre-recorded cassette at this very moment. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:32:31 09/25/08 (0)
- brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp! - Bruce from DC 08:57:50 09/22/08 (5)
- RE: say excuse me... - Matts_ 06:08:14 09/23/08 (2)
- Excuse me - Bruce from DC 13:25:44 09/24/08 (0)
- RE: say excuse me... - rlindsa 06:21:00 09/23/08 (0)
- I have owned "When I Look In Your Eyes" and "The Girl in the Other Room" on SACD - Teresa 19:11:30 09/22/08 (0)
- "The Girl In the Other Room" is a DK SACD (nt) - Pinkus 09:35:23 09/22/08 (0)
- LMAO! - Squonk 06:19:09 09/22/08 (0)
- You left out a word.... - rlindsa 05:51:35 09/22/08 (10)
- I was trying to be nice, what I really wanted to say is - Teresa 19:23:58 09/22/08 (9)
- Guess I'm not a "real" audiophile - rlindsa 20:51:31 09/22/08 (8)
- To be even more precise, Diana Krall Verve recordings do not sound realistic. - Teresa 21:59:51 09/22/08 (7)
- To be even more precise, here's what you said - rlindsa 05:21:12 09/23/08 (6)
- Yes but I would include Analog Reel to Reel as well. - Teresa 05:42:26 09/23/08 (5)
- OK, guess I'm not one of the audiophile cognoscenti - rlindsa 05:58:45 09/23/08 (4)
- So are you saying you do not like the sound quality of audiophile LPs, SACDs and Reel to Reels? - Teresa 06:14:27 09/23/08 (3)
- Not saying that at all - rlindsa 10:55:51 09/23/08 (2)
- Even though you took a comment out of context you PROVED MY POINT. People like Diana Krall because - Teresa 14:26:53 09/23/08 (1)
- Au Contraire - rlindsa 16:40:39 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: NO - Todd Krieger 01:25:12 09/22/08 (5)
- RE: NO - Shane from AUS 03:04:09 09/22/08 (4)
- Say what?!?!?! - J Harris 09:07:20 09/22/08 (2)
- RE: Say what?!?!?! - Shane from AUS 17:02:58 09/22/08 (1)
- Not quite true. - J Harris 19:32:04 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: NO - Todd Krieger 03:33:10 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: Dianna Krapp is everything that is wrong about audiophiles today. - mp9 21:42:22 09/21/08 (0)
- RE: Diana Krall CD - mauimusicman 19:55:29 09/21/08 (0)
- The Root of the Frustration..... And a Suggestion...... - Todd Krieger 19:30:42 09/21/08 (3)
- General discussions of polarity have their place... - Tony Lauck 09:54:01 09/22/08 (0)
- Sounds like a good idea for pitch correction discussions too! * - EBerlin 23:51:12 09/21/08 (1)
- Just One Difference...... - Todd Krieger 01:50:41 09/22/08 (0)
- My Victrola doesn't have a phasing problem... - AdamC 18:16:08 09/21/08 (0)
- Go and tell the Dominicans. (nt) - Self-Inflicted 16:45:04 09/21/08 (0)
- Can I ask YOU a question? - Tom 16:11:18 09/21/08 (4)
- RE: Can I ask YOU a question? - powermatic 20:59:43 09/21/08 (1)
- It was proven to be a fraud? I hadn't followed it since - Wendell Narrod 21:38:06 09/21/08 (0)
- RE: Can I ask YOU a question? - georgelouis 17:36:51 09/21/08 (1)
- There's a boat load of... - Spun1 18:25:17 09/21/08 (0)
- To the Bored, or TWIMC... - eppis1 12:54:26 09/21/08 (1)
- RE: To the Bored, or TWIMC... - tedk. 13:55:28 09/21/08 (0)
- Why would anyone care about a Diana Krall CD? - Paul_A 07:12:06 09/21/08 (24)
- RE: Why would anyone care about a Diana Krall CD? - middleground 06:13:38 09/22/08 (0)
- BS! An excellent artist with excellent collaborators . True they - bjh 17:51:31 09/21/08 (3)
- RE: BS! An excellent artist with excellent collaborators . True they - Squonk 18:34:34 09/21/08 (2)
- dont forget john clayton on bass! - hifitommy 19:09:48 09/21/08 (1)
- Yes indeedy. - Squonk 20:33:30 09/21/08 (0)
- so much for your musical taste - hifitommy 15:42:23 09/21/08 (0)
- They'll get bored of her soon enough. - ppopp 12:50:57 09/21/08 (0)
- Because...... - Todd Krieger 11:52:38 09/21/08 (14)
- Inverted polarity or pitch correction. I'm tired of reading about both. - Wendell Narrod 13:37:31 09/21/08 (13)
- Too Bad...... - Todd Krieger 17:50:35 09/21/08 (11)
- OK. I get it. I still don't care. I either like music or I don't. - Wendell Narrod 18:01:04 09/21/08 (10)
- RE: OK. I get it. I still don't care. I either like music or I don't. - Todd Krieger 18:22:12 09/21/08 (9)
- I still don't care. I didn't realize it was one of Clark's pearls. - Wendell Narrod 18:26:26 09/21/08 (8)
- Look At the Message, Not the Messenger...... - Todd Krieger 18:34:57 09/21/08 (7)
- I was responding to the message. I thought it was your discovery. - Wendell Narrod 18:38:32 09/21/08 (6)
- The Elephant In the Room...... - Todd Krieger 18:53:03 09/21/08 (5)
- I didn't say that. I said I didn't care about the issue and was tired of it and polarity being brought up so - Wendell Narrod 18:57:57 09/21/08 (4)
- Meanwhile....... - Todd Krieger 19:10:38 09/21/08 (3)
- OK. Whatever floats your boat. - Wendell Narrod 19:24:52 09/21/08 (2)
- RE: OK. Whatever floats your boat. - Todd Krieger 19:49:02 09/21/08 (1)
- Well, at least I made the top 10. - Wendell Narrod 19:52:44 09/21/08 (0)
- AMEN! nt - Tom 16:30:04 09/21/08 (0)
- RE: Because..... - trcnetmsncom 11:20:01 09/21/08 (0)
- RE: Why would anyone care about a Diana Krall CD? - Shaun E 11:09:25 09/21/08 (0)
- When is someone going to make a device to allow quite changes of polarity? nt - Norm 06:58:28 09/21/08 (16)
- RE: When is someone going to make a device to allow quite changes of polarity? nt - JVBadg 09:02:12 09/24/08 (0)
- It's Common with PC Audio - Tony Lauck 19:37:40 09/21/08 (7)
- Inverting does not have to entail another gain stages, but often does. I too am interested in invert in Foobar - Norm 07:45:06 09/22/08 (0)
- Just out of interest.... - welly 21:43:16 09/21/08 (5)
- Polarity Inverter for foobar2000 - Tony Lauck 08:53:32 09/22/08 (4)
- Thanks from here also. - rick_m 07:35:44 09/24/08 (1)
- Polarity could be a file attribute, just like Replay Gain. - Tony Lauck 08:46:05 09/24/08 (0)
- Thanks (nt) - welly 14:56:00 09/22/08 (1)
- You're welcome! - Tony Lauck 15:05:33 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: When is someone going to make a device to allow quite changes of polarity? nt - Travis 07:03:53 09/21/08 (6)
- I know there are some, but also remember when all cd players gave the button. - Norm 13:59:30 09/21/08 (0)
- Plenty do - Metralla 08:18:36 09/21/08 (4)
- RE: Plenty do - deBandala 17:39:49 09/21/08 (3)
- depoends on where - unclestu52 21:49:04 09/21/08 (2)
- Phase just has to do with the two speakers acting together. - Norm 07:51:05 09/22/08 (1)
- Actually... for speakers... - Presto 15:21:44 09/22/08 (0)
- First of all.......it's Diana Krall...... - Ozzy 05:41:43 09/21/08 (1)
- RE: First of all.......it's Diana Krall...... - suretyguy 16:34:57 09/22/08 (0)
- I have an idea. - Squonk 02:43:47 09/21/08 (6)
- RE: I have an idea. - georgelouis 12:24:12 09/21/08 (5)
- RE: I have an idea. - Todd Krieger 12:56:36 09/21/08 (4)
- CD labels polarity - georgelouis 14:09:03 09/21/08 (1)
- RE: CD labels polarity - GTCharlie 18:51:10 09/21/08 (0)
- Chesky music and test CD - georgelouis 14:02:05 09/21/08 (1)
- compare it to the second test CD - unclestu52 22:10:18 09/21/08 (0)
- Does anyone really care.... - Rodney Gold 23:40:17 09/20/08 (7)
- RE: Does anyone really care.... - georgelouis 00:58:27 09/21/08 (3)
- What's the point? - mls-stl 06:11:59 09/21/08 (0)
- RE: Does anyone really care.... - Rodney Gold 02:42:42 09/21/08 (1)
- Only those that cannot hear - HiOnFi 06:57:49 09/21/08 (0)
- Nope - AbeCollins 00:22:32 09/21/08 (2)
Follow Ups
- General discussions of polarity have their place... - Tony Lauck 09:54:01 09/22/08 (0)
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