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In Reply to: If you don't hear a difference, this is the wrong hobby for you??? No, you may have more critical hearing. posted by Norm on July 7, 2008 at 14:38:14:
Exactly..If you cant hear a difference in a balanced power conditioner,dont buy it.Thats how I felt about AC cords..It doesnt make me wrong or someone else right but I have a different senario here because Im uisng tube amps that I customized with the line filters and all the goodies to begin with.To each his own and when I voiced my opinion of what I thought about Ac cords as opposed to balanced power,i think I set off an A bomb lol.
No matter how stir the pot,you only get out as good as what goes in.Power supplies matter most.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - AudioDoctor 17:23:11 07/06/08 (135)
- Well.. - jimmyjames 12:57:58 07/10/08 (0)
- Audio Magic Stealth - Maprik 07:43:30 07/10/08 (0)
- One of the best line conditioners is - Ralph 13:40:52 07/07/08 (11)
- RE: One of the best line conditioners is - Maprik 07:48:17 07/10/08 (7)
- maybe - Ralph 09:08:16 07/10/08 (5)
- To quote Homer Simpson, speaking to Lisa: - author@escapeclause.net 12:08:20 07/10/08 (4)
- RE: To quote Homer Simpson, speaking to Lisa: - AudioDoctor 20:13:58 07/10/08 (1)
- Don't look at me, this is the first I've heard of it. (nt) - author@escapeclause.net 20:15:27 07/10/08 (0)
- I first heard about the 5th harmonic about 1993 - Ralph 12:58:03 07/10/08 (1)
- Daddy should bet all his money on ----? (nt) - author@escapeclause.net 13:18:14 07/10/08 (0)
- RE: Daddy should bet all his money on ----? (nt) - LineArrayNut 12:06:27 12/17/08 (0)
- "synchronous motor tries to spin backwards" -- is that obscene? (nt) - author@escapeclause.net 08:57:30 07/10/08 (0)
- RE: One of the best line conditioners is - AudioDoctor 16:52:03 07/07/08 (2)
- Here you go... - mkuller 20:51:11 07/07/08 (1)
- http://www.valuetronics.com/index.aspx nt - Ralph 12:53:12 07/08/08 (0)
- RE: Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - Tobias 07:14:27 07/07/08 (0)
- Yes, on my disc player! - RickeyM 07:04:29 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: Yes, on my disc player! - Michael Samra 13:08:09 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - smcdonie@uwsp.edu 06:20:16 07/07/08 (0)
- Useful for sources - E-Stat 06:11:16 07/07/08 (3)
- RE: Useful for sources - Michael Samra 12:58:09 07/07/08 (1)
- Equitech, yes! - Atexanathome 15:28:09 07/08/08 (0)
- Agree... - AbeCollins 09:51:13 07/07/08 (0)
- There are only 2 types of PC's that improve component performance each and every time... - kenster 02:16:42 07/07/08 (16)
- RE: There are only 2 types of PC's that improve component performance each and every time... - Michael Samra 10:44:30 07/07/08 (15)
- So here is what I suggest you do.... - mkuller 12:32:10 07/07/08 (14)
- Maybe this forum isn't for you - author@escapeclause.net 14:20:58 07/08/08 (0)
- If you don't hear a difference, this is the wrong hobby for you??? No, you may have more critical hearing. - Norm 14:38:14 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: If you don't hear a difference, this is the wrong hobby for you??? No, you may have more critical hearing. - Michael Samra 15:15:25 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: So here is what I suggest you do.... - Michael Samra 12:56:09 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: So here is what I suggest you do.... - Michael Samra 12:54:14 07/07/08 (9)
- Thanks.... - mkuller 13:39:48 07/07/08 (8)
- RE: Thanks.... - Michael Samra 14:12:52 07/07/08 (7)
- This reminds me of a George Carlin joke - E-Stat 14:21:19 07/07/08 (6)
- RE: This reminds me of a George Carlin joke - kenster 15:25:29 07/07/08 (2)
- I'm open to either - E-Stat 17:37:07 07/07/08 (1)
- One just needs to explore the possibilities. - kenster 18:33:27 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: This reminds me of a George Carlin joke - Michael Samra 14:51:51 07/07/08 (2)
- Filters in cords? - E-Stat 15:05:39 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: Filters in cords? - Michael Samra 15:17:26 07/07/08 (0)
- No "Broad Brush" Answer...... - Todd Krieger 01:16:56 07/07/08 (2)
- Interestingly - mt10425 12:06:19 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: No "Broad Brush" Answer...... - Michael Samra 07:36:54 07/07/08 (0)
- I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 23:48:42 07/06/08 (66)
- Hasty generalization regarding power cords. - Al Sekela 10:45:23 07/08/08 (1)
- RE: Hasty generalization regarding power cords. - Michael Samra 03:59:57 07/10/08 (0)
- Do you measure RFI rejection? (nt) - mkuller 10:04:06 07/07/08 (9)
- RE: Do you measure RFI rejection? (nt) - Michael Samra 10:21:56 07/07/08 (8)
- Mike, you really need to get out more often - E-Stat 10:32:22 07/07/08 (7)
- RE: Mike, you really need to get out more often - Michael Samra 10:42:50 07/07/08 (6)
- My point is - E-Stat 10:56:47 07/07/08 (5)
- RE: My point is - Michael Samra 11:38:39 07/07/08 (4)
- Obviously - E-Stat 12:42:12 07/07/08 (3)
- RE: Obviously - Michael Samra 13:00:55 07/07/08 (2)
- I will echo Mike K's comments - E-Stat 13:08:17 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: I will echo Mike K's comments - Michael Samra 13:15:08 07/07/08 (0)
- This whole argument was predicated on balanced power - Michael Samra 09:53:47 07/07/08 (11)
- The problem with theorizing - E-Stat 10:27:47 07/07/08 (10)
- RE: The problem with theorizing - Michael Samra 11:49:49 07/07/08 (9)
- More speculation - E-Stat 12:54:56 07/07/08 (8)
- RE: More speculation - Michael Samra 13:06:58 07/07/08 (7)
- Perhaps - E-Stat 13:16:02 07/07/08 (6)
- RE: Perhaps - Michael Samra 13:30:26 07/07/08 (5)
- here is my unit - Michael Samra 13:33:43 07/07/08 (4)
- That is a 16.6 amp unit - E-Stat 13:46:45 07/07/08 (3)
- RE: That is a 16.6 amp unit - Michael Samra 13:50:16 07/07/08 (2)
- As I said earlier - E-Stat 14:13:15 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: As I said earlier - Michael Samra 14:33:41 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 07:40:33 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - drums12344321@yahoo.com 06:45:32 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 07:19:13 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - calloway 04:24:03 07/07/08 (32)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 07:21:53 07/07/08 (30)
- assuming your own experience equates to the absolute *truth* about anything defines ignorance. NT - lancelot 08:36:39 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: assuming your own experience equates to the absolute *truth* about anything defines ignorance. NT - Michael Samra 08:49:49 07/07/08 (0)
- "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." Got any evidence for that assertion?... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:00:46 07/07/08 (27)
- RE: "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." Got any evidence for that assertion?... nt - Michael Samra 08:14:46 07/07/08 (26)
- Meanwhile, about that assertion...??? nt - clarkjohnsen 08:25:09 07/07/08 (25)
- RE: Meanwhile, about that assertion...??? nt - Michael Samra 08:34:35 07/07/08 (24)
- "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." Still wondering about evidence for that. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:28:18 07/07/08 (0)
- I'll be happy to tell you what... - E-Stat 09:34:08 07/07/08 (20)
- And there you have it... nt - clarkjohnsen 10:25:55 07/07/08 (19)
- No CJ,here you have it - Michael Samra 10:53:03 07/07/08 (18)
- "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." You seem unwilling to support your assertion, so let me... - clarkjohnsen 12:12:52 07/07/08 (17)
- Clark ..This is what I do in summer months. - Michael Samra 13:17:23 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." You seem unwilling to support your assertion, so let me... - Michael Samra 12:40:03 07/07/08 (8)
- All well and good, but here's what you're stuck with when you say... - clarkjohnsen 09:12:15 07/08/08 (7)
- RE: All well and good, but here's what you're stuck with when you say... - Michael Samra 04:23:49 07/10/08 (6)
- "Measurement equipment... can measure the things that matter." That's an unsubstantiated assertion. - clarkjohnsen 07:45:19 07/10/08 (5)
- RE: "Measurement equipment... can measure the things that matter." That's an unsubstantiated assertion. - Michael Samra 08:18:15 07/10/08 (4)
- You're wavering, I can see it. C'mon, admit that people can hear things that can't yet be measured. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:25:11 07/10/08 (3)
- RE: You're wavering, I can see it. C'mon, admit that people can hear things that can't yet be measured. nt - Michael Samra 10:29:04 07/10/08 (2)
- "Psychoacoustics" huh? But if you learn how to measure something, it then becomes "acoustics"? - clarkjohnsen 10:50:56 07/10/08 (1)
- RE: "Psychoacoustics" huh? But if you learn how to measure something, it then becomes "acoustics"? - Michael Samra 15:43:26 07/10/08 (0)
- I see my work here is done. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:32:40 07/11/08 (0)
- RE: "If you cant measure it,you aint hearin it." You seem unwilling to support your assertion, so let me... - Michael Samra 12:25:35 07/07/08 (6)
- "We call those that believe in the power cord concept, customers." The horror! - clarkjohnsen 12:31:13 07/07/08 (5)
- RE: "We call those that believe in the power cord concept, customers." The horror! - Michael Samra 13:10:06 07/07/08 (4)
- "...improve their equipment where they can really hear a difference." Sounding like a liberal! - clarkjohnsen 08:48:36 07/08/08 (1)
- RE: "...improve their equipment where they can really hear a difference." Sounding like a liberal! - Michael Samra 10:11:18 07/08/08 (0)
- Didn't bush prove 'compassionate conservative' is an oxymoron? (nt) - mkuller 13:44:30 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: Didn't bush prove 'compassionate conservative' is an oxymoron? (nt) - Michael Samra 14:14:37 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: Meanwhile, about that assertion...??? nt - Grant 09:14:13 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: Meanwhile, about that assertion...??? nt - Michael Samra 09:25:39 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - sk 05:24:59 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - kenster 02:26:27 07/07/08 (4)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 07:34:44 07/07/08 (3)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - kenster 18:51:16 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 05:52:54 07/08/08 (0)
- RE: I am always the biggest skeptic when it comes to things - Michael Samra 08:48:40 07/07/08 (0)
- Respectfully - Sherlock 23:55:44 07/06/08 (0)
- Power plant premier - drums12344321@yahoo.com 21:52:26 07/06/08 (1)
- RE: Power plant premier - FloridaJim 02:25:42 07/07/08 (0)
- RE: Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - snugglebunnies 21:26:07 07/06/08 (1)
- RE: Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - AudioDoctor 18:14:31 07/07/08 (0)
- Snake oil. - Hepcat 21:24:10 07/06/08 (0)
- RGPC 400 Pro - carbonman 21:04:29 07/06/08 (0)
- A handful help, but most hurt. Put it in your system and listen. Then remove it. 9 of 10 times better without* - Norm 20:01:30 07/06/08 (8)
- My experience also - Charles Hansen 21:12:19 07/06/08 (7)
- RE: My experience also - Sunya 03:34:07 07/07/08 (5)
- RE: My experience also - Charles Hansen 07:21:29 07/07/08 (4)
- RE: My experience also - Sunya 08:11:07 07/07/08 (3)
- Charles has stated that... - Nicholas Renter 09:56:06 07/07/08 (2)
- RE: Charles has stated that... - Sunya 11:00:09 07/07/08 (1)
- RE: Charles has stated that... - proth 13:20:59 07/07/08 (0)
- That is THE way to do it - Sherlock 22:19:11 07/06/08 (0)
- RE: Power Conditioner, snake oil or useful? - David Aiken 18:34:25 07/06/08 (0)
- Careful what you play with. Some PCs mess up the dynamics too much. - oscar 18:28:42 07/06/08 (3)
- They sure can... - Sherlock 18:34:01 07/06/08 (1)
- RE: They sure can... - AudioDoctor 18:37:10 07/06/08 (0)
- RE: Careful what you play with. Some PCs mess up the dynamics too much. - AudioDoctor 18:30:40 07/06/08 (0)
- Very useful... - mkuller 18:16:56 07/06/08 (0)
- Huge improvement. No question about it. - Sherlock 17:37:06 07/06/08 (1)
- RE: Huge improvement. No question about it. - Sherlock 17:38:50 07/06/08 (0)
- what I've read - author@escapeclause.net 17:31:40 07/06/08 (2)
- RE: what I've read - AudioDoctor 18:38:57 07/06/08 (1)
- I had the APC H-15 for awhile - author@escapeclause.net 18:43:23 07/06/08 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: If you don't hear a difference, this is the wrong hobby for you??? No, you may have more critical hearing. - Michael Samra 15:15:25 07/07/08 (0)