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In Reply to: "Placebo effect is a well documented phenomenon." While that may be, the fact is... posted by clarkjohnsen on July 2, 2007 at 09:10:30:
1) "...the placebo phenomenon works! Else it wouldn't be a concern, would it?" I fully understand the placebo effect. If you are implying that the teleportation tweak works by way of suggestion, then you are admitting that it is simply a sugar pill - a $60 sugar pill!
2) "Could it be, that the only reason you dismiss this aspect so... dismissively, is that you're ashamed of not understanding it?" There was *nothing* dismissive about my statement concerning placebo effect, and I cannot conceive how one could possibly infer from the aforementioned statement that I don't understand said phenomenon. I simply stated that the only means (in my view) by which the Clever Little Clock or the Teleportation Tweak might work is fideism.
3) "Also you use that word, "seems" -- got any scientific evidence to back that up?" I used the word 'seems' in the context of one's judiciousness - no scientific evidence is necessary. However, in this age of pseudoscience, prudence dictates that the more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinarily well-tested the evidence must be. The previous sentence applies to the two cited tweaks in spades – I cannot imagine more extraordinary claims. So, I hereby turn your request on you – got any scientific evidence to back these tweaks up? By the way, anecdotes do not a science make.
For a better understanding of my mode of thinking, I highly recommend Michael Shermer’s book “Why People Believe Weird Things†– I think there are some individuals here who would benefit from a little more skeptical thinking.
"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ♬
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Follow Ups
- Are you calling these tweaks placebo? - wazoo 21:58:18 07/02/07 (7)
- "Are you calling these tweaks placebo?" Plainly not. - clarkjohnsen 09:12:01 07/03/07 (6)
- If not placebo, then what? (That's all I ask.) - wazoo 22:54:10 07/03/07 (5)
- "I could teach a course on the history of science." Maybe you shouldn't. - clarkjohnsen 08:27:55 07/05/07 (4)
- Wrong again! - wazoo 18:33:53 07/05/07 (0)
- RE: "I could teach a course on the history of science." Maybe you shouldn't. - May Belt 11:03:24 07/05/07 (2)
- hocus pocus - wazoo 18:48:38 07/05/07 (0)
- "But when the testing has to be done with any of the senses, particularly the hearing..." Indeed. - clarkjohnsen 11:14:38 07/05/07 (0)
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