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"wants the "big ole union" to protect him and his job."

Apparently the point of a union has been lost in this discussion. Unions allow "all" employees to negioate from a position of equality. One person alone does not carry sufficient clout to negioate from an even position with a large company. A union cannot protect a peson's job, only set an agreed upon set of rules that the company AND employee agree to follow. It's called a collective bargaining agreement.

the day of the stupid, follow-like-sheep dunderheaded "union man" is on the wane.

Ah this point of stupid...I have to take issue with this. So all the union members are stupid....

Teachers. Nurses. Firefighters. Police Officers. Electricians. Pipefitters. Just to name a few. I think all of them would take issue with being called stupid.

How about me? I am a rank and file union member. I work in a paper mill. Operate heavy equipment. Also have a degree in Business Administration from Eastern Washington University. B.A in Sociology from EWU. Graudiated with a 3.39. Care to call me a stupid union member also?

One thing I have discovered about working with these blue collar. "stupid, follow-like-sheep dunderheaded "union man" that you call them. Is that they can be every bit as smart and intelligent as an educated engineer. Many cases they would have made an excellent mechanical, electrical, chemical enginner, but their life path did not allow them the opportunity to go to school. NEVER assume they are stupid. All you are doing is exposing your own ignorance.

"The days of the obese, lazy, uneducated union worker are coming to an end."

Unions ar enot the powerhouse they were in the post WWII era, that is true.It is a symptom of what has gone wrong with this country. Too many manufacturing jobs have been lost oveseas. The goods being produced there are still needed by this economy, and should be made within our borders. The loss of these jobs cannot be the sole fault of union labor. (Actually with union labor you get better trained employees and a stable work force. Things that are needed to be successful in the manufacturing process.) Companies no longer take a long term look to the future. The value of the stock share can have more relevance than the product being produced today. Multi-national companies have no concern about what the effects of thier action are on individuals, states, or even the countries economy. Yet their charter is still in the US. Shouldnt they be held accountable for their actions?

You talk of the damage that unions have done to businesses, and how they handicap them. But business is more than capable of damaging themselves. It is white collar managers who are responsible for

Enron
Halliburton No-Bid contract awards
Anderson-Lay accounting scandles
the S&A disaster of the 80's
the Love Canal incident on the East Coast
the latest pipeline problems in Alaska

and the list can go on. Costs millions if not billions of dollars. All by their own hand.

I honestly believe that only organized labor is capable of negioating with large businesses on an equal footing. Companies do not want to pay a respectalbe wage if they don't have to. Thats why they make use of cheap foreign labor. It's easier to exploit another countries poor people. Organized labor is the only way to obtain a living wage from a company consistently.

Regards,
Mister Pig


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