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In Reply to: Woof... posted by mkuller on February 24, 2007 at 10:26:28:
Well, we better finish this before we're pushed off the page.It's very hard to argue with an unrepentant industry shill.
--At least Fremer listed a caveat for the performance area you didn't like. Many people can respectfully disagree on the treble performance of a loudspeaker.
You asked me to find a speaker that I thought sounded like crap that had gotten a good review, caveat or not. I did that. Now you're busy arguing that perhaps it is a great speaker and/or perhaps it wasn't a great review. Some people just can't take "yes" for an answer.
--Bad assumption. If the [Sim] amp wasn't a good match with those speakers, it could sound bad no matter how it sounded with other speakers.
JA discussing the impedance curves noted this was an easy speaker to drive. A Sim should do it. In fact, one of the places I saw these speakers was at a show where, evidently, the speaker manufacturer thought this was an advantageous combination, for he used Sim amps.
--It's not unusual for a component with poor measured performance to sound good. As I said before, look at the popularity of SET amps. There isn't always a very close correlation between the two.
Yes, yes I know about tube amp measurements and harmonic distortion. But, JA takes great measurements of speakers, and IMHO if there is a measurement problem that problem can be heard. Anyway, we're talking about SPEAKERS here.
--I know Fremer from his days at TAS, and while I find him very arrogant and find myself in disagreement with him at times, he has a lot of integrity and an excellent reputation to protect.
Well, arrogant is an understatement. By the way he has addressed himself to persons on this board, to issues raised about his reviewing, and in public to others like Arthur Salvatore he doesn't engender a great deal of personal respect and presumed integrity around here. He is generally writing reviews no different in kind from those at the webzines, and as I have written, quite different from those of the Pearson era. And apparently you don't get to review $45M speakers--with the opportunity to buy them at about 1/2 price--if you're known for panning speakers.
In any event when a speaker sounds as terrible as this one (and confirmed in this opinion by others on this board) and is reviewed to be "one of the most enjoyable and highest-performing speakers I've reviewed," and measures so poorly and then is given a Class A rating, yes, I do think something is amiss.
--IIRC, Devore isn't even an advertiser. You're barking up the wrong tree.
DeVore takes space at Stereophile-Primedia shows. That's advertising. Woof, woof!
Cheers,
Mel
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Follow Ups
- Re: Hey, I'll Keep Barking - Mel 18:08:52 02/24/07 (2)
- Re: Hey, I'll Keep Barking - Dan Banquer 05:01:12 02/26/07 (0)
- One final comment... - mkuller 21:51:59 02/24/07 (0)
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