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In Reply to: "you wouldn't have taken such an aggrwessive stance" posted by Richard BassNut Greene on February 22, 2007 at 08:04:39:
I wonder if your own posts could withstand the type of "critical analysis" you apply to others. Most likely not."But we audiophiles don't have the time to listen to every speaker for sale, so we may be able to find one or more measurements that help us identify great speakers, or help us eliminate poor speakers, so we end up auditioning mainly good speakers."
Again, for the hard of comprehension: in the abstract, measurements are useless. In context, if one can correlate a type of measurement with a type of "sound," then they have meaning. However, that meaningful correlation can only occur AFTER extensive listening. If in the process of that extensive brain-training one can't learn to distinguish a good speaker from a bad one, then I am truly sorry for you. Not wanting to claim to represent "audiophiles" as you seem to have done, for myself my reference is what things in nature really sound like to me, not how a speaker measures.
"That's too bad, because there are far too many speaker brands/models to audition, so that means you have no way to determine which speakers deserve a chance, other than the almost always positive reviews."That's silly. I go to brick-and-mortars, and I listen. Some speakers are good, some are not, and some are great. I've never used a single measurement as a guide of any sort when auditioning speakers. I've never felt the need. You may think my choice of speakers a poor one, but why would I care?
Regarding the reviews: even if as you suggest most reviews are just smiley-faces, I wouldn't see that as a huge problem (I don't agree, though: did you read the review of the Zanden stuff in Stereophile? No? You don't read the rags? Oh, I see....). I would expect the reviewer to have already culled from the review herd those products not worth listening to.
"When you compare reviews of similarly priced speakers, each reviewer may have different comments about how the speakers sound in his room, but it's difficult to determine which speaker is rated the best"No its not. YOU determine what speaker is best for YOU. Like measurements, you have to correlate your own experiences with the comments of a (hopefully) consistent reviewer. That correlation happens by....listening.
Regarding your final parting shot: have at it, Nut. Hypocrisy suits you. Your post history can't survive the same scrutiny you seem to have put mine under.
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Follow Ups
- Always fun to highlight typos, isn't it Nut? - robert young 13:41:42 02/22/07 (1)
- Always like to highlight the most accurate sections of your posts! - Richard BassNut Greene 11:07:38 02/25/07 (0)
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