I think this is a fundamenatlly misocceived conception of what 'fine PITCH acuity actually IS

Posted by Timbo in Oz (A) on February 16, 2007 at 18:23:19

In Reply to: Test for Absolute Pitch posted by Todd Krieger on February 14, 2007 at 04:30:01:

I personally have never found ET other than VERY tricksy and non-intuitive, even dare I say it, unmusical!

My old Choirmaster said this was just FINE really, I'd manage to get past it, and made me a 'Leader' and eventually the DHC! all are RSCM terms! *

440Hz is also an arbitrary scaling or classification of the progression of pitches. HIP performers change A with the weather it seems.

All classifications are arbitrary JBTW, but in this case this test is certainly ethnocentric - to modern western 'serious/fine music' - training.

A narrow and standardised version of that, as well.

Snap! - about the choristers who couldn't cope with 'notching it up a third or so' or down a 5th! GOOD one Ted, quite apt!

and owyergoin' maaate, orright!?

in summary - fine relative pitch acuity is IMO far more REAL a phenomenon or human musical trait, and far more usefully to tet for, than is confirming someone's commitment to a laid-down / learned arbitrary pattern and its LIST.

And, I didn't actually / really - LIKE - the sound of the notes, moving quickly to thinking about the above points.

Only then realising that I didn't LIKE the timbre at all.

the person playings touch? Grand pianos in general? ;-)!!!!, miking, my 'phones / PC , low sampling rates?

Really, who gives a damn!

That is how I see it!
Warmest

Timbo in Oz
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger

And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!

'Still not saluting.'

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Topic - Test for Absolute Pitch - Todd Krieger 04:30:01 02/14/07 (26)

I think this is a fundamenatlly misocceived conception of what 'fine PITCH acuity actually IS - Timbo in Oz 18:23:19 02/16/07 (0)

I got them all! - LousyTourist 06:41:54 02/15/07 (0)

Little tale about perfect pitch - Cpk 20:05:34 02/14/07 (0)

I have perfect pitch...perfectly awful pitch, that is! - lipmanl 11:24:40 02/14/07 (0)

Believe it or not, - markrohr 07:05:54 02/14/07 (16)

Agreed... - nubz 19:41:45 02/14/07 (0)

or not, - unclestu52 11:16:28 02/14/07 (11)

Intonation has nothing to do with absolute pitch. - markrohr 17:32:02 02/14/07 (10)

Re: Intonation has nothing to do with absolute pitch. - unclestu52 21:53:17 02/14/07 (9)

Soory if you mean abs pitch as setsted for here I think it is for far too many players and singers a real obstacle to - Timbo in Oz 18:31:28 02/16/07 (0)

Misconceptions. - markrohr 04:19:56 02/15/07 (7)

Re: Misconceptions. - Ted Smith 11:23:55 02/15/07 (0)

Re: Misconceptions. - unclestu52 11:19:36 02/15/07 (5)

Let me tell you a little story. - markrohr 10:23:04 02/16/07 (2)

Re: Let me tell you a little story. - unclestu52 14:08:00 02/16/07 (1)

Agenda? Sheesh. - markrohr 06:52:34 02/17/07 (0)

Sorry. - markrohr 13:06:19 02/15/07 (1)

Right you are, Mr. Rohr... - Tom 17:13:30 02/15/07 (0)

You may be interested... - mkuller 09:40:53 02/14/07 (2)

I will, thanks. - markrohr 09:51:15 02/14/07 (1)

Absolute pitch is an inborn skill...(nt) - mkuller 09:53:10 02/14/07 (0)

perfect pitch - chosenhandle 05:53:17 02/14/07 (4)

NO that's when you throw an objectivist about anything into the real world of testing and he gets bitten - Timbo in Oz 18:39:29 02/16/07 (0)

you could also do that - REL54 13:58:00 02/14/07 (0)

Re: perfect pitch - Jake_LA 08:17:51 02/14/07 (0)

Re: perfect pitch - driver8 06:49:42 02/14/07 (0)

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