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In Reply to: Re: Well.... posted by thegage on April 28, 2004 at 12:32:36:
Where the materials are sourced, wheather they be finished product or not, and or whatever price is placed on the item for sale in my opinion is not the issue. The issue is did the company in question partake in deceptive advertising practices and if so did this act influence the decision of potential buyers to purchase their product.If RPL's value of his high priced purchase was inherent to the advertised specialized design and manufacturing skills of the vendor and was further led to believe the product in question was indeed designed and manufactured by the vendor and it was these representations which influenced his purchase decision, then those above claims are material represenations. If, as it may or not turn out, the product is essentially a mass-market low cost item it's design and manufacture not influenced in any material way by the specialized skills of the vendor in question then this original represenation starts to slide to the mis-representation mis-leading side of things. That is against the law
Anyways, that's my take on it.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - JPS Labs/Eupen cable controversy: A call to Belgium - Steve Eddy 02:59:07 04/28/04 (136)
- "AL SON DE LA LATA BAILA EL CHORIZO." - Psychicanimal 17:48:59 04/30/04 (2)
- Re: "AL SON DE LA LATA BAILA EL CHORIZO." - Steve Eddy 22:58:02 04/30/04 (1)
- JPS is the can and Jon Risch is the sausage. - Psychicanimal 04:52:08 05/01/04 (0)
- Clarification please. Been following these threads closely, but - DeKay 23:58:44 04/28/04 (6)
- Re: Clarification please. Been following these threads closely, but - Hafdef 08:42:45 04/29/04 (0)
- Yes the plugs at both ends are molded... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 00:17:38 04/29/04 (4)
- Re: Yes the plugs at both ends are molded... - Hafdef 04:53:25 04/29/04 (3)
- Yes, the nylon braided covering expands easily - goofytwoshoes 05:32:24 04/29/04 (2)
- The plugs are covered by JPS-labeled heat-shrink...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 11:54:54 04/29/04 (0)
- Thank-you. (nt) - Hafdef 05:46:58 04/29/04 (0)
- I find this VERY hard to believe. - Jon Risch 19:36:29 04/28/04 (22)
- You tell me? - Phil Tower 11:34:08 04/29/04 (4)
- OK - Jon Risch 16:40:27 04/29/04 (3)
- Re: OK - Steve Eddy 21:04:55 04/29/04 (0)
- Re: OK - Phil Tower 16:49:33 04/29/04 (1)
- he doesn't have to - garth 02:12:49 04/30/04 (0)
- Jeez, Jon. You are leaping over the edge and.... - Rick W 09:17:05 04/29/04 (1)
- Double LOL - Magnetar 09:37:58 04/29/04 (0)
- Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 21:35:13 04/28/04 (7)
- Re: Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - Jon Risch 10:05:16 04/29/04 (6)
- Re: Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - Steve Eddy 10:34:18 04/29/04 (5)
- Re: Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - Jon Risch 16:42:20 04/29/04 (4)
- Re: Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - Joe II-V 23:38:00 04/29/04 (1)
- I was wondering that myself. I think JR is hallucinating. [nt - garth 02:17:40 04/30/04 (0)
- Re: Jon, my apologies if I am misunderstanding you... - Steve Eddy 21:30:49 04/29/04 (0)
- Twin sons of different mothers perhaps?...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 20:48:00 04/29/04 (0)
- Re: I find this VERY hard to believe. - Dalton 21:08:10 04/28/04 (5)
- P.S. I also find this very hard to believe... - Dalton 21:37:56 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: P.S. I also find this very hard to believe... - Steve Eddy 21:51:46 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: P.S. I also find this very hard to believe... - Dalton 22:13:06 04/28/04 (1)
- A week? It would have blown over in a day.....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 21:23:29 04/28/04 (1)
- Well, it would have with a clear and decisive first response... - Dalton 21:42:33 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: I find this VERY hard to believe. - Steve Eddy 20:54:04 04/28/04 (0)
- This will probably be one of the classic Asylum threads - Caymus 17:38:12 04/28/04 (2)
- "another false audiophile claim." Beg to differ. - clarkjohnsen 08:51:19 04/29/04 (1)
- Oops, you're right - I did mean "manufacturer" - Caymus 11:54:37 04/29/04 (0)
- For those curious about the meanings of cable markings on the Eupen cable... - Steve Eddy 15:38:41 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: 10 out of 11 - Grover 16:55:40 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: 10 out of 11 - Steve Eddy 21:28:30 04/28/04 (0)
- JPS's obfuscation speaks for itself... - Dalton 14:18:33 04/28/04 (3)
- I Agree Completely NT - lancelot 16:21:01 04/28/04 (0)
- My conclusion also. - Corbu 15:03:47 04/28/04 (1)
- Yep, too much "nuance" in their response. - Dalton 16:15:17 04/28/04 (1)
- On Being Trusted Less Than A Used Car Salesman - C.P.C.C. 13:25:15 04/28/04 (0)
- This thread is killing me!!! - marc g. 12:50:56 04/28/04 (1)
- This is more like a weeks worth of General Hospital ...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:54:19 04/28/04 (0)
- Counterexample #1: How much do you think lenses for eyeglasses cost? - clarkjohnsen 12:40:32 04/28/04 (3)
- And how much do you think eyeglasses for chickens cost?....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 00:19:00 04/29/04 (1)
- A reasonable estimate would be about 2/3 the cost of eyeglasses for shithouse rats [nt] - agattu 10:03:44 04/29/04 (0)
- Re: Counterexample #1: How much do you think lenses for eyeglasses cost? - Steve Eddy 13:22:06 04/28/04 (0)
- Counterexample 2: Those little watch-repair shops with the Swiss guy at the desk? - clarkjohnsen 12:38:27 04/28/04 (1)
- Didn't used to be that way my dad was... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:43:25 04/28/04 (0)
- Well.... - thegage 11:47:08 04/28/04 (3)
- Re: Well.... - Hafdef 12:07:31 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: Well.... - thegage 12:32:36 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: Well.... - Hafdef 14:26:58 04/28/04 (0)
- People should read the literature from different companies before making a purchase.. - SoftwireEngineer 10:18:42 04/28/04 (0)
- You only had to read their "explanation" to realise they were not ... - tom1356 10:17:06 04/28/04 (0)
- If our vaunted designers would just get off their toasty butts and... - clarkjohnsen 09:33:59 04/28/04 (24)
- What about Blue Circle - Caymus 10:27:09 04/29/04 (1)
- Oh c'mon now... nt - clarkjohnsen 12:14:12 04/29/04 (0)
- Just look to Naim....... - Ian Mackenzie 11:54:42 04/28/04 (19)
- On the contrary, I found Naim gear is extremely reactive to set up and tweaks... - kuma 21:55:16 04/28/04 (1)
- Hmmm, no..... - Ian Mackenzie 06:23:59 04/29/04 (0)
- Regrettably, my experience suggests that even Naim can still be improved... - clarkjohnsen 12:23:18 04/28/04 (8)
- "why would Naim themselves sell several levels of cable?" - Rob Doorack 13:34:09 04/28/04 (6)
- Re: "why would Naim themselves sell several levels of cable?" - Steve Eddy 13:59:01 04/28/04 (5)
- Re: "why would Naim themselves sell several levels of cable?" - Dan Banquer 06:30:38 04/29/04 (0)
- Nagra preamps use a Lemo connection to the outboard power supply. (nt) - kuma 22:05:52 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: Nagra preamps use a Lemo connection to the outboard power supply. (nt) - Steve Eddy 22:44:30 04/28/04 (0)
- Quad used DIN's in the past.... - Sean 20:09:38 04/28/04 (1)
- Thanks, Sean. nt - Steve Eddy 21:59:58 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Regrettably, my experience suggests that even Naim can still be improved... - Ian Mackenzie 12:54:43 04/28/04 (0)
- Heck, just look at Bryston.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:08:47 04/28/04 (7)
- But they will sell you an upgrade power supply.. - SoftwireEngineer 14:44:10 04/28/04 (1)
- The new power-supply to the BP25 preamp is very resistant.. - rp1@surfnetusa.com 18:47:02 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Heck, just look at Bryston.... - Dan Banquer 12:38:47 04/28/04 (4)
- Bryston doesn't sell a power cord but their IC is not exactly cheap. nt - bjh 14:16:11 04/28/04 (1)
- But the professional Mogami cable IS cheap and workds great....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 18:37:46 04/28/04 (0)
- And Bose for that matter (nt) - PdL 12:53:56 04/28/04 (0)
- OK....nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 12:40:59 04/28/04 (0)
- Very well said... - jneutron 10:48:33 04/28/04 (1)
- Thank you. And about time, too... nt - clarkjohnsen 12:21:29 04/28/04 (0)
- Well..... - Sean 08:29:59 04/28/04 (2)
- I suspect the audiophile cable fraud is widespread - Caymus 09:19:27 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: I suspect the audiophile cable fraud is widespread - Dan Banquer 17:38:07 04/28/04 (0)
- Man; great detective work!! - Duilawyer 08:23:18 04/28/04 (0)
- I wish someone would start talking about tubed motherboards again................. - Benglert 08:05:23 04/28/04 (0)
- LOL - - Magnetar 07:51:36 04/28/04 (25)
- DIY's the way to go - 1/1000th the cost typically-nt - Green Lantern 10:14:14 04/28/04 (5)
- Don't Try This at Home - C.P.C.C. 14:07:14 04/28/04 (3)
- Ewww -- another power cord dude - Magnetar 16:53:49 04/28/04 (0)
- more than one way to make a cable; this was meant 'in general' nt - Green Lantern 15:06:06 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Don't Try This at Home - Steve Eddy 14:27:57 04/28/04 (0)
- YesSir-E -- (nt) - Magnetar 10:40:36 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: LOL - - Dan Banquer 08:29:28 04/28/04 (18)
- Re: LOL - - Gee LP 15:37:14 04/28/04 (8)
- HD wire question - marc g. 16:09:15 04/28/04 (7)
- It's 14 gauge, orange with black stripe, extension cord - Dave Pogue 08:16:04 04/29/04 (6)
- power cord - Jack Gribble 10:37:19 04/29/04 (3)
- Re: power cord - Dave Pogue 14:14:20 04/29/04 (2)
- Re: power cord - Jack Gribble 11:17:14 04/30/04 (1)
- I didn't like the way my power-saw sounded on that cord...nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:20:34 04/30/04 (0)
- Re: It's 14 gauge, orange with black stripe, extension cord - marc g. 09:17:12 04/29/04 (1)
- Re: It's 14 gauge, orange with black stripe, extension cord - Dave Pogue 10:17:05 04/29/04 (0)
- Duuuuhhh--do you read my column? - John Marks 09:17:46 04/28/04 (5)
- Typical 'high end' Twisting of Facts - Magnetar 11:23:35 04/28/04 (3)
- You totally missed the point, but I am not going to try to explain it to you. - John Marks 14:01:57 04/28/04 (2)
- Your analogy was poor. nt - tom1356 19:17:21 04/28/04 (0)
- Nope - no explanation needed - Magnetar 16:35:04 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Duuuuhhh--do you read my column? - Dan Banquer 09:45:26 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: LOL - - Magnetar 08:39:47 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: LOL - - Dan Banquer 09:51:22 04/28/04 (1)
- But the packaging is SO CUTE......nt - rp1@surfnetusa.com 18:30:22 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: JPS Labs/Eupen cable controversy: A call to Belgium - Hafdef 06:18:08 04/28/04 (1)
- "the story will change somewhat tomorrow." - marc g. 08:47:34 04/28/04 (0)
- Why would you, as a manufacturer, get involved in this? - Jack Seaton 06:07:03 04/28/04 (9)
- That's a very sad almost pitiful question. - Hafdef 09:55:04 04/28/04 (3)
- Did you mean "ethical" instead of "moral" values? - PdL 11:19:46 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: Did you mean "ethical" instead of "moral" values? - Hafdef 11:42:21 04/28/04 (1)
- Your right (with moral) - I read your inital post too fast. (nt) - PdL 12:57:09 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: Why would you, as a manufacturer, get involved in this? - Steve Eddy 09:43:20 04/28/04 (4)
- You got it. - Jack Seaton 19:09:37 04/28/04 (2)
- Re: You got it. - Steve Eddy 22:54:29 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: You got it. - Jack Seaton 08:01:07 04/29/04 (0)
- The Consequences of Bad Behavior - C.P.C.C. 14:16:55 04/28/04 (0)
- Re: JPS Labs/Eupen cable controversy: A call to Belgium - middleground 05:57:12 04/28/04 (3)
- Re: JPS Labs/Eupen cable controversy: A call to Belgium - frito 07:41:25 04/28/04 (1)
- Re: JPS Labs/Eupen cable controversy: A call to Belgium - middleground 13:13:23 04/28/04 (0)
- I agree... - NonA 06:54:10 04/28/04 (0)
- Correction - Steve Eddy 03:14:04 04/28/04 (5)
- anyone wanna go in on a set of five? I only need one.... (nt) - darkstar 05:18:35 04/28/04 (3)
- Re: anyone wanna go in on a set of five? I only need one.... (nt) - DannyR 10:40:32 04/29/04 (0)
- Re: anyone wanna go in on a set of five? I only need one.... (nt) - rrsands 05:05:31 04/29/04 (0)
- Re: anyone wanna go in on a set of five? I only need one.... (nt) - Steve Eddy 10:17:23 04/28/04 (0)
- Thanks - Metralla 03:43:22 04/28/04 (0)
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- Re: Well.... - Hafdef 14:26:58 04/28/04 (0)
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